West Bromwich Albion v Crystal Palace

West Bromwich Albion v Crystal Palace

Commentary By: Andy Martin

FINAL SCORE: 3 - 2



Good night from me

AM at 2016-02-27 21:08:30

In my final summary of a cracking and exciting end to end game then the game will long be remembered for the Crystal Palace fightback in the 2nd half and their disappointment at the non award of the 2 penalty kicks in this half.

 

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AM at 2016-02-27 21:03:35

Then onto Tuesday 1st March when we have a South Coast Spectacular when we see Bournemouth v Southampton with a 7.45pm kick off.

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Coming up tomorrow

AM at 2016-02-27 21:03:00

Tomorrow we turn our attention to 2 more massive games for different reasons:

Manchester United v Arsenal in the English Premier League with a kick off at 2.05pm and then onto The 2016 Capital One Cup Final to be played at Wembley when we see Liverpool v Manchester City with a 4.30pm kick off.

Michael Oliver has been appointed to referee The 2016 Capital One Cup Final, which will be contested by Liverpool and Manchester City.

Oliver has been one of the top-performing referees this season and has rightly earned his place to lead the two clubs out at Wembley in what will be his first major final as the man in the middle, although he was the fourth official in the Final three years ago.

 

Michael Oliver appointed to referee Capital One Cup Final


Full time summary of Match Officials

AM at 2016-02-27 21:01:16

Pre match we discussed the 4 key areas of a match official and from an educational point of view how do we think the Referee and his team have performed tonight?

Key match decisions would be the 2 Crystal Palace penalty appeals in the 50th and 70th minutes – both were not awarded by Jonathan Moss and in these situations we have to ask ourselves did JM – see? if so did he recognise? he had time to think and he choose to act by not awarding in both situations?

The 50th minute blatant penalty appeal when McCauley pushed Dann in the back as Dann looked to be heading the ball towards the WBA goal looked to be a clear penalty kick but not awarded. Did JM have the best view? he appeared to have it?

Also in the 70th minute Bolasie has gone down in a challenge with Fletcher and again in this situation a penalty kick would have been correct, could GB have assisted here as he would of have a good view from the line on this side?

  •  My thoughts would be from a positive point of view that JM has overall controlled this game and indeed in the 2nd half he became consistent in his showing of yellow cards for offences. He judged foul / non foul well in a game of high intensity. He has utilised the advantage clause well throughout the game whenever he could and this had a positive effect overall. He has used the advantage clause whenever he can to a positive effect. He has played an advantage to WBA 25th minute and then following a reckless challenge by Adebayor come back at the next stoppage and shown the yellow card. In the 1st half there was the non showing of yellow cards to Ward 13th minute of CP reckless right in front of GB – a yellow card would have been correct. Also the 19th minute pull back by Mutch with the WBA player just going around him towards the edge of the CP penalty area. Again no yellow card shown and again I felt that GB could have assisted JM here. Signals by JM do not look directional, sharp or positive and this is a key area for any referee to display a positive body language together with communication – hand / arm signals. As for both Assistants then MW has been low key and could and should have assisted with a fk in front of him with JM awarding from a distance further away in the 2nd half. All offside judgements were correct. GB has made good offside judgements just the 3 areas of support not forthcoming (2 yellow cards) as we have discussed at half time. Also the 70th minute penalty appeals he could have supported JM here. Please let us know your thoughts by tweeting us @youaretheref or why not visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/youaretheref

FULL TIME

AM at 2016-02-27 20:30:21

Full Time

3-2 – Summary to follow..

 


90+5

AM at 2016-02-27 20:29:49

90 + 5 played and not a second more added as JM brings this enthralling game to a conclusion with a key and crucial win for WBA  But the key talking points will be the 2 key match decisions non award of penalty kicks to CP in the 2nd half in the 50th and 70th minutes which we will be discussing..

 

 

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90+3

AM at 2016-02-27 20:25:34

JM putting in a sprint in that last WBA breakaway results in a WBA fk. Spray out as JM paces back 10 paces to SPRAY OUT A LINE FOR THE DEFENDERS TO STAND BEHIND


90+2

AM at 2016-02-27 20:23:49

WBA throw in correct judgement from JM


90+1

AM at 2016-02-27 20:22:33

CP offside signalled by GB


5 minutes of additonal time - minimum are shown by Lee Mason 4th Official

AM at 2016-02-27 20:21:18


88

AM at 2016-02-27 20:20:38

CP fk awarded by JM whose arm signal looks to be directing across the field? key area for referees to view and consider their directional signal. Spray out in his management of the fk


86

AM at 2016-02-27 20:18:47

WBA sub 33 off 30 on

 

27 CP careless on 18 WBA no flag signal from MW? JM awards WBA a fk

 


85 - simulation!

AM at 2016-02-27 20:17:37

Clear dive by Ward brings a CP free kick! see Keith Hacketts article about this…

 

Hacketts Blog – Referees must be sure of simulation

 

 


CP penalty appeals in the 50th and 70th minutes

AM at 2016-02-27 20:15:54

We will come to discuss these later……..

 

 

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83

AM at 2016-02-27 20:14:46

In that last WBA breakaway then JM has worked hard to remain close to play to judge no fk to WBA close to the CP goal line


CP sub

AM at 2016-02-27 20:13:03

28 off and 15 on


79

AM at 2016-02-27 20:12:43

GOAL! Wickham to make it 3-2 this really is now game on!

 


78

AM at 2016-02-27 20:10:58

7 of CP leaves the field of play following the last Chester reckless challenge on him to be substituted


77

AM at 2016-02-27 20:09:30

Yellow Card

Chester 4 of WBA correctly shown the yellow card


CP penalty appeals

AM at 2016-02-27 20:08:30

I just wonder if on the last CP penalty appeals whether Bolasie`s fall to the ground in the challenge and the previous non free kick award earlier in the half has flashed through JM`s mind not to award?

 

 

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73

AM at 2016-02-27 20:04:59

WBA sub 29 off 14 on


70

AM at 2016-02-27 20:04:03

From a CP free kick the ball goes into the WBA penalty and Bolasie is then felled in the WBA penalty area amongst appeals from CP players.


The Capital One Cup Final tomorrow

AM at 2016-02-27 20:00:14

Tomorrow we turn our attention to 2 more massive games for different reasons:

Manchester United v Arsenal in the English Premier League with a kick off at 2.05pm and then onto The 2016 Capital One Cup Final to be played at Wembley when we see Liverpool v Manchester City with a 4.30pm kick off.

Michael Oliver has been appointed to referee The 2016 Capital One Cup Final, which will be contested by Liverpool and Manchester City.

Oliver has been one of the top-performing referees this season and has rightly earned his place to lead the two clubs out at Wembley in what will be his first major final as the man in the middle, although he was the fourth official in the Final three years ago.

 

Michael Oliver appointed to referee Capital One Cup Final


66

AM at 2016-02-27 19:58:21

No free kick correct as Bolasie looks for a free kick when he has run into the WBA player


Well worth a read!

AM at 2016-02-27 19:57:23

One of Brazil’s best football journalists was highly impressed with the drama of the Sunday in the Premier League when Arsenal beat Leicester and Tottenham beat Manchester City. But he was also disappointed.

“The sensational Sunday drama in the Premier League,” wrote Andre Kfouri, “when the top four teams played each other, was marred by important refereeing mistakes which could have had an influence on the fight for the title.

“In an age when the systems of video technology are ready to be used in a reliable manner, it is an unacceptable waste that results on the field might be altered by refereeing errors that could be corrected by the use of images. Especially in a place where money is not a problem.”

Read more………………..

Tim Vickery is fifas resistence to video technology noble?


63

AM at 2016-02-27 19:56:06

Cabaye Yellow Cardreckless challenge – we seem to have moved away from any communication by the referee at a yellow card situation? what are your thoughts on this?

 

 

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61

AM at 2016-02-27 19:53:50

Foul by Kelly right under the gaze of MW who correctly signals a free kick to WBA – as an AR this is when you need to come in and support the referee


59

AM at 2016-02-27 19:51:57

In that last WBA attack then JM has moved towards MW with the ball being played across  the CP goal a move towards the left hand channel would have been the best position / move for JM


The Ref Show - 22.02.16

AM at 2016-02-27 19:49:45

The Ref Show – 22nd February2016

On the panel this week with Alan Biggs is former FIFA referee Keith Hackett and former professional footballer Brian Deane. We have talking points from the weekend, a debate on if football will be affected if Britain leaves the European Union and abuse of match officials particularly at grassroots level.

 

Sunday football ‘unbearable’ for aspiring referee. Read more……………

Sunday football unbearable for aspiring referee


56

AM at 2016-02-27 19:48:08

Foster out quickly to make a fair challenge as he clears the ball – JM well placed to judge


53

AM at 2016-02-27 19:46:38

Advantage to WBA good judgement here by JM as WBA have a good attacking move


52

AM at 2016-02-27 19:45:07

Going back to the last CP shouts for a penalty kick. Then CP should have been awarded a penalty kick when a foul by McCauley into the back of Dann should have resulted in a penalty kick to CP


49

AM at 2016-02-27 19:43:25

CP breakaway with Bolasie on the breakaway – CP ck with CP claiming a penalty kick. Then with a WBA breakaway  Berahino hits the bar


47

AM at 2016-02-27 19:39:58

GOAL!3-1 CP get back in the game early in this half with a Wickham side foot into the WBA goal


AM at 2016-02-27 19:37:38

10 of CP sub lets all know that he is on with a early free kick


CP sub

AM at 2016-02-27 19:36:37

10 on and 25 off – we are underway


Half time summary

AM at 2016-02-27 19:33:19

Let us have a look at the basic principles of decision making for the match officials tonight:

  • See
  • Recognise
  • Think
  • Act

This applies to both referee, assistant and 4th official.

How do you think JM has done to half time?

My thoughts would be from a positive point of view then JM has overall controlled the first half by using the advantage clause whenever he can. He has played an advantage to WBA 25th minute and then following a reckless challenge by Adebayor come back at the next stoppage and shown the yellow card.

Areas of consistency would be the non showing of yellow cards to Ward 2 13th minute of CP reckless right in front of GB – a yellow card would have been correct. Also the 19th minute pull back by Mutch with the WBA player just going around him towards the edge of the CP penalty area. Again no yellow card shown and again I felt that GB could have assisted JM here.

Signals by JM do not look sharp or positive and this is a key area for any referee to display a positive body language together with communication – hand / arm signals.

As for both Assistants then MW has been low key and GB has made good offside judgements just the 2 areas of support not forthcoming as we have discussed above what are your thoughts so far?

 

 

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Half time

AM at 2016-02-27 19:21:14

Half Time

3-0


45+3

AM at 2016-02-27 19:20:50

Foul on Zaha spray out again as JM manages the fk


45+2

AM at 2016-02-27 19:18:57

WBA hit the post following a deflection ball out of play for a ck to WBA


45+1

AM at 2016-02-27 19:17:56

Zaha 11 of CP is spoken to by JM following a push on a WBA player – JM trying to take the heat out of things and this is good management here


5 minutes minimum of additional time

AM at 2016-02-27 19:15:41


WBA sub

AM at 2016-02-27 19:13:38

11 off 4 on


40

AM at 2016-02-27 19:12:55

Foul awarded following foul by Zaha on Brunt – physio on as Brunt fell to the ground awkwardly


37

AM at 2016-02-27 19:09:43

Free kick to CP awarded after some thought by JM by which time the ball has been played back towards the WBA goal by 1 of their players, this is an area that JM will need to aware of with the score currently at 3-0


JM Communication Signals

AM at 2016-02-27 19:07:24

As a referee it is key to show positive hand / arm signals – tonight so far JM`s signalling could well be revisited – free kick signals then these need to be more directional and also advantage signal needs to be as per law = keep an eye on these areas of JM`s communication


32

AM at 2016-02-27 19:04:02

FK TO WBA – followed up by a throw in to CP – GB remained focussed on the touch line as throw ins close to you can be the most difficult to judge correctly


30

AM at 2016-02-27 19:02:03

GOAL!

BERAHINO 18 SCORES TO MAKE IT 3-0!

 


29

AM at 2016-02-27 19:00:59

Matt Wilkes waited on that last throw in signal and awarded to WBA – HE WOULD HAVE LOOKED TO JM FOR CONFIRMATION


Advantage to WBA

AM at 2016-02-27 18:58:31

25 Adebayor commits a reckless foul play challenge – JM plays a good advantage and at the next stoppage comes back and shows the yellow cardYellow Cardwhat were your thoughts on this challenge?

 

 

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Mutch challenge - prior to the WBA goal

AM at 2016-02-27 18:54:04

If we go back to the Mutch pull back then GB could have assisted here on the comms to advise JM of a yellow card as this would have been the correct outcome – teamwork is key


21

AM at 2016-02-27 18:52:19

Advantage played by JM to WBA positive as a good move develops


19

AM at 2016-02-27 18:50:59

Mutch 22 pulls back Sessignon and again a surprise no yellow for this blatant pull back. From the free kick Dawson scores GOAL! 2-0


17

AM at 2016-02-27 18:49:13

Foul on Zaha with WBA players appealing the other way? JM had a good view and remains in his award


16

AM at 2016-02-27 18:47:55

Dawson late on Mutch and a yellow card follows Yellow Cardcorrect but I go back to the last challenge by Ward and why is that any different? we need to look at consistency here and as a referee this is key


13

AM at 2016-02-27 18:45:07

Ward 2 of CP reckless right in front of GB and my feeling is a yellow card would have been appropriate here


11

AM at 2016-02-27 18:43:17

GOAL!

Gardner to make it 1-0 to The Baggies


11

AM at 2016-02-27 18:42:19

As that last cross came in from WBA – GB would have continued with his run to the goal line to judge ball out of play


9

AM at 2016-02-27 18:40:50

Good early position from GB in line with 2nd rearmost defender no offside against WBA – RIGHT POSITION TO JUDGE


7

AM at 2016-02-27 18:39:04

Rondom 33 commits a careless challenge on Ward and is penalised – JM will need to be mindful and pick up these early challenges and keep a firm grip.


5

AM at 2016-02-27 18:37:24

Advantage played by JM as the ball is played back by CP. My feeling here is that an early free kick award would have been beneficial here


Principles of decision making

AM at 2016-02-27 18:36:06

Let us have a look at the basic principles of decision making for the match officials tonight:

  • See
  • Recognise
  • Think
  • Act

This applies to both referee, assistant and 4th official


2

AM at 2016-02-27 18:33:54

Gary Beswick is on the near touchline (Technical Areas)


1

AM at 2016-02-27 18:32:56

There appeared to an early foul on Zaha but not awarded?  I think that Jon Moss was looking for support from Matt WIlkes who is on the far touchline


We are underway

AM at 2016-02-27 18:30:38


Last nights game Hull City v Sheffield Wednesday

AM at 2016-02-27 18:30:26

Hacketts Blog – Referees must be sure of simulation

 

 

A must read article from last nights game

 


AM at 2016-02-27 18:29:09

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AM at 2016-02-27 18:28:39

Palace have won none of their last nine Premier League matches, scoring just four goals in that run. –  Only Alan Pardew (43 per cent) has a better Premier League win percentage as Palace manager than Tony Pulis managed as boss of the Eagles (42 per cent). –  West Brom and Palace have both scored a joint-high eight goals from corners in the Premier League this season, along with Manchester City. –  There have been four penalties in the last four meetings between West Brom and Crystal Palace.


Tonights Match Officials

AM at 2016-02-27 18:27:23

The Match Officials selected by the PGMOL Management Team for this evening`s Premier League game are as follows:

 

 

Referee: Jonathan Moss (JM)

  

 

AR1. Gary Beswick (GB)

       

AR2. Matthew Wilkes (MW)

 

4th Official. Lee Mason (LM)

 


Pre Match Build Up

AM at 2016-02-27 18:24:42

Good evening to all our ref cam followers to tonight`s game when we see West Bromwich Albion v Crystal Palace.

 

 

 

West Bromwich Albion fans will unfurl a banner proclaiming ‘Brunty, one of us’ and will sing his name in the 11th minute to mark Chris Brunt’s shirt number in a positive move to atone for the disgusting coin throwing incident at Reading.

On the pitch, both clubs are in awful league form. West Bromwich Albion have one win in six matches, Palace are winless in a league-high nine games and have scored just four goals in the process. Both Teams are on 32 points and before today`s games they were both 8 points off the drop zone. So both will see this as a must win game to move well away from the drop zone.

“But their FA Cup win at Tottenham last weekend has buoyed them. They might have enough to deepen The Hawthorns gloom, unless those home fans can prove really inspirational.”