West Bromwich Albion -v- Burnley


TS at 2014-09-28 18:00:02

Game over and the points are in the Baggies locker after a dominating display against a poor Burnley outfit.  In summary Jon can be generally pleased overall with his performance which avoided any major controversy. Not issuing a caution for the holding offence in the first half and not being vigilant at the grappling situations at corner kicks were the major talking points in the first half. Counter that with some good judgement in the penalty area where no penalty was awarded and his balance of control and he would be please with that. He does need to display a more dynamic sprint and inject some added enthusiasm into his body language and persona. There is no doubt that he can referee effectively but he needs to step up a gear in all that he does if he is to be in contention for honours later in the season. His major development need is to inject pace into his movement in the mid-field areas so that he is closer to play in the vital final third where decisions in the penalty area are crucial. Some of his facial expressions are stern and a smile would help his control in some instances. He is receptive to advice which is constructive and helpful but I have my doubts that this is being given from ‘the powers that be’ in the PGMOL – there are times in motivational skills where the need to put an arm around someone is the need rather than the mushroom method that seems to exist. Join us tomorrow evening for the game between Stoke City and Newcastle United which will be refereed by Craig Pawson – another of the newer faces on the Select Group who is carving out a career with several solid performances of late. Good luck to him and thanks for your contribution to this afternoon’s game from everyone at You-Are-The-Ref. Yorkshire Tea time again for a well earned cuppa!

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TS at 2014-09-28 17:48:52

Three minutes added. Is it enough or have the fans had their value for money? It’s almost over as we enter added time. The need now is for Jon to see the game to a safe conclusion without any controversial incidents.

TS at 2014-09-28 17:47:36

Yellow CardCaution to Mee correctly issued as Burnley concede a 4th goal in the 90th minute.

TS at 2014-09-28 17:43:44

Final 5 minutes and in reality the points are in the bag for the Baggies. Corner to Burnley and it comes to nothing as another substitution is made to further kill the game in AlbionS favour.

TS at 2014-09-28 17:40:35

Another free kick on the half way line correctly awarded and the game slowed down followed by another one after advantage attempted. Again petulance displayed after a 3rd free kick and Jon not close enough for me. Substitution Albion also helps to delay the restart. The calculation of Time Allowed will be interesting!

TS at 2014-09-28 17:36:49

Jon needs to increase his concentration levels for the final 10 minutes and to displayed added awareness about his own mobility and fitness levels. Getting the right angle to look into play is so important to ensure effective and accurate decisions are made. Congratulations to Lee Mason yesterday for his decision to dismiss Wayne Rooney at Manchester United for an act of serious foul play in deliberately kicking an opponent.

TS at 2014-09-28 17:33:22

Free kick awarded but Jon didn’tt move towards the incident and ended up issuing a caution Yellow Card For the offence of delaying the restart. Better if he had moved in and managed the restart and avoided the caution.

TS at 2014-09-28 17:31:23

Substitutions for injured players do not normally sound alarm bells for the referee to raise their game, unlike tactical changes which can cause a temporary threat to control. The player entering the field of play, in Law, must not enter until his team mate has left and a good ploy for officials is to slow down the change over when the tempo has increased. Mike Jones did well and slowed it right down – that might have been a breather for the referee!

TS at 2014-09-28 17:27:00

Early season games on lush surfaces and in warm conditions can represent a fitness problem for referees in the later stages of the game. Fatigue at around 70 to 80 minutes can cause of a loss of concentration to referees and players alike and it is something Jon will be aware of as he works hard to maintain his focus. He attracted criticism at Hull City a few weeks ago when an incorrect throw-in award during the last 10 minutes of the game cost the home team points. The manager pointed to ‘a referee error’ costing him the game instead of his defenders for not dealing with the pace of the opposition attackers! The old saying of ‘it’s not whether you win or loose, but who you blame’ is still ringing true.

TS at 2014-09-28 17:25:23

Burnley almost score but Foster did well to keep it out. They are putting the pressure on and it will take referee Moss out of his comfort zone if play gets more end to end. We’ll watch how it develops.

TS at 2014-09-28 17:20:18

Free kick in dangerous position to Albion. More spray than an Ibiza foam party! The ball hit the wall and away.

TS at 2014-09-28 17:17:37

That was a ‘lazy’ indirect free kick signal and the arm aloft got lower as he ran. Poor technique!

TS at 2014-09-28 17:16:28

Burnley look ragged with almost an hour gone but this game still needs effective officiating. Jon Moss will be all too aware that he will need to maintain focus and manage the game with the full range of skills in his locker.

TS at 2014-09-28 17:13:54

Goal Albion – great run by Home 18 and buried with delight.

TS at 2014-09-28 17:12:40

Mike Jones in dialogue with Sean Dyche – seemed friendly enough! Tensions in the technical area are alway in need of management and more often than not the 4th Official takes an earful for anything the managers both feel the referee has missed. Mike Jones will try and manage the situation but I can’t help but think, and I’ve mentioned this before, that there has been too much tolerance over recent years as managers have pushed the levels as far as they are allowed. Neil Warnock developed it into an art form! In Europe it doesn’t happen because the penalties are severe. Is it a lesson to be learned for our domestic game? What are your views? Contact us on Twitter @youaretheref or email us at Info@you-are-the-ref.com

TS at 2014-09-28 17:10:49

Advantage signalled when it wS only possession of the ball. Better to award the free kick as the ‘advantage’ came to nothing.

TS at 2014-09-28 17:09:09

First offside 49 minutes – and strong double admonishment correctly ended in a handshake. Good referee technique – delivered calmly and underlined by the handshake.

TS at 2014-09-28 17:04:36

Two changes by Burnley as they need to dominate the game and take it to Albion. First yellow card to Burnley 20 Yellow CardFor a two footed challenge but his feet were not high. Lucky boy!

TS at 2014-09-28 17:02:22

Second half under way. What changes will the managers have made to their tactical formations? Adjustments to the referee’s positioning might be necessary as he watches to see what changes have been made by the managers. Remember that the tactical formations of the teams (4-4-2 or 5-3-2-1) have different positional requirements for the referee to get the best viewing angles without being in the way of play. Jon will have discussed his first half performance with his colleagues who hopefully will have offered opinions of more of the same – no surprise decisions but hopefully have offered their opinion on the missed caution and grappling at corner kicks. Let’s see how it develops in the second half.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:48:34

Half time and here’ something to think about! As I have my cuppa this is the debate….

Look at Keith Hackett’s article on this subject – GRAPPLING IS BACK THANKS TO WEAK REFEREEING

Keith said, – We are only a few weeks back into the season and grappling is back with a vengeance in the Premier League. The World Cup set a wonderful example, with referees taking firm action when any sign of grappling was visible, and to their credit players responded in a positive manner. Holding, pulling, blocking offences in the penalty area disappeared in Brazil and the image of the game improved. It is so important for the group of professional referees operating in the Premier League to be instructed to take a more pro-active control and to focus on applying the law on foul play.

If penalty kicks have to be awarded then so be it, until every manager/coach, player gets the message that grappling will not be tolerated by our referees. Weak refereeing currently is allowing these offences to take place without appropriate punishment with the result that they are escalating, damaging the image of the Premier League games that are viewed in over 211 territories around the world. We are also beginning to see a trend where players who get away with the offences in the penalty area are now committing them in other areas of the field in open play.

Keith added – I am not in favour of clampdowns, the law needs to be applied in a consistent manner across the group of professional referees so that all stakeholders in the game have a clear understanding of what is acceptable or not. We all want players to challenge for the ball in a fair manner.


TS at 2014-09-28 16:46:04

Added time at the end of the first half and it needs extra vigilance to see the half to a safe conclusion. Goal Albion in the one minute added.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:44:31

Great save from a thunderbolt as Heaton tips it over the bar. Corner Albion and grappling more evident by the attackers. It was a clear could but nothing given.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:41:55

Corner for Albion came to nothing but there are signs of the use of grappling in corner situations. We will be debating that issue at half-time following the recent opinions of Keith Hackett.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:39:26

A strong word with Arfield following a holding offence which should have attracted a caution. Will his lenient approach be seen as a sign of weakness by the players?

TS at 2014-09-28 16:36:48

35 minutes gone and the game has not given referee Moss any major problems as his judgement of offences has been soundly displayed. He needs to maintain his focus and judgement.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:32:30

Goals change games and in the period of play after a goal has been scored there needs to be extra vigilance from all the officials. Burnley need to step up their game which could rock the boat of control.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:30:40

Goal Albion by Dawson from the corner.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:29:34

Albion dominating the game with possession and attempts on goal but so far they have not converted it into a goal! Is it only a matter of time?

TS at 2014-09-28 16:27:12

No offside decisions needed so far as the assistants maintain their low profile. assistant Halliday has been the busier and missed nothing.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:25:33

A couple of ‘little fouls’ rightly awarded as Jon increases his profile to establish his presence for the benefit of the game. No foul given – correctly – as an attacker runs into a defender.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:21:04

Advantage played when play was tight and a second foul gives Burnley a free kick in a good position. Use of the vanishing spray is good to see and I’m amazed that all levels of football in the UK are not using this wonderful aid to the art of refereeing! Why is it not being used in the Football League, the Vanarama Conference and at all levels down to local football? The referees at those levels want it, the players want it and yet the authorities are burying their heads in the sands of tradition! Come on folks – let’s move with the times and get into the real world! Good to see the players toeing the line when the vanishing spray is used.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:17:52

Jon Moss has judged his involvement to perfection in these early stages as he’s allowed the players to attempt to create without the need to intervene – well done.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:16:01

15 minutes gone and a close call for Albion results in a corner as Burnley remain under pressure. Second corner and still no fouls committed by either team.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:12:47

Penalty appeal for Burnley rightly refused and corner for Burnley ends with a shot over the bar.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:11:35

Ten minutes gone and applause for Albion legend Jeff Astle – still awaiting the first foul of the game.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:09:34

Both teams are trying to play football with WBA taking the game to Burnley. Good crabbing and awareness by AR Halliday as play moved in front of him.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:06:15

First impressions of Jon’s running style and anticipation of play could be an indication that he’ll need to increase his acceleration and give more thought to his positioning as attacks develop.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:03:46

Almost hit by the ball in the left channel which was fortunate for him. Maintaining a position within 20 to 25 yards of the ball ensures that decision making has added credibility. If this is followed by the referee continuing to move towards the incident then added credibility is attained and physical presence will deter any reaction and ensure that the restart is managed more proactively.

TS at 2014-09-28 16:00:12

Jon Moss blows the whistle and we’re under way. The referee will have done his homework on both teams in an attempt to be in total control. He’ll be aware of where his problems might arise and let’s hope that he will be able to get into the best viewing positions to judge incidents. He looked very serious as he collected the ball and we hope he’ll relax and allow the game to breath for everyone’s enjoyment.

TS at 2014-09-28 15:55:44

The players are in the tunnel as Assistants Long and Halliday carry out the final equipment checks before the players enter the arena.

TS at 2014-09-28 15:54:54

During my active referee career and when I worked as Referee Coach, I always enjoyed visiting West Brom where the officials were looked after by a great guy called Mike Penn. His son Andy was another Football League referee whom I had the pleasure of working with and they were both lovely people who I’m sure will be at the game in some capacity today.

TS at 2014-09-28 15:49:16

Referee Jon Moss officiated on The Football League for several years when I was his coach and he certainly thinks deeply about his game which was very evident when I worked with him. He was highly conscious of his image at that time and to his credit has slimmed down considerably since he was promoted to the Premier League. Even at Football League level, despite carrying some perceived excess weight, his fitness level was always of the highest order. He’s further slimmed down over the past 12 months as the demands of being a full-time Select Group official have been taken to heart and this has increased his work-rate in the games that I have seen. That will be something to watch for today. Today’s 4th Official, Mike Jones was a referee I had to opportunity to work with at the Dallas Cup when he and Mike Pike officiated at the Dallas Cup (the humour of Referee Officer Jim Ashworth in sending Pike and Jones to Dallas together is something that still makes me smile and is sadly missing today). It may have been a bit ‘Dad’s Army’ but the learning curve and progress Mike Jones made stood him in good stead when he later gained his promotion to the Premier League list of officials.

TS at 2014-09-28 15:43:17

West Bromwich Albion -v- Burnley

Referee : Jon Moss
Assistant 1: S. Long
Assistant 2: A. Halliday
Fourth Official: Mike Jones

Sunday 28th September 2014


TS at 2014-09-28 15:33:25

Sunday 28th September 2014.

Good afternoon from You Are The Ref which is featuring the clash at The Hawthorns this afternoon as WBA entertain newly promoted Burnley. The field of play looks in great condition and that should ensure a fluid game of football between two teams who certainly can play, but have so far this season, not fulfilled their potential. It should be interesting as both teams will be looking for a win to take them up the table from the dangerously poised positions of 17th and 19th respectively. WBA have yet to record a home win having played two on home soil and only achieved one point for their efforts but with a win and a draw away from home they are currently on 5 points from 5 games. Burnley by contrast have yet to score away from home with a draw and a defeat on the road earning them just one point towards their total of just 3 points from 5 games. Their last three games have been goalless draws with stalemates against Manchester United, Crystal Palace and Sunderland. Their only goal of the season so far was scored by Scott Arfield against Chelsea on the opening game of the season. We could be in for a tense affair today where goals will be at a premium! Please let us have your thoughts on you-are-the-ref.com throughout the game.