West Bromwich Albion v Arsenal


GT at 2014-11-29 15:46:07

And that’s all for today’s game WBA v Arsenal.

But certainly it’s not game over for all of you YATR fans.

Stick with us here on YATR for more live commentary on Refcam, as we have Leicester City v Liverpool coming up on Tuesday when I shall once again be providing the commentary, along with other great content on the website including ‘The Ref Show’, a great feature called ‘Cards on the Table’ and, of course, the superb ‘Hackett’s Blog’.

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GT at 2014-11-29 15:43:59

As for our referees team…

In reverse order:

4th official – Kevin Friend; did his job in a quiet, unfussy manner.

Assistant Referee – Mick McDonough – well done today. One big call, to chalk off the WBA ‘goal’ in the first half for offside. Correct decision. Good lining.

Assistant Referee – Constantine Hatzidakis; poor today. He had his big call with the game finely balanced at 0-0. He awarded a dreadful offside decision against West Brom when everything should have told him the player was clearly on. Not acceptable.

Chris Foy; decision making was acceptable today. Of course he got some wrong, but that has to be accepted. However, he could have reduced the number he called incorrectly by getting into better positions. He runs too short and too narrow. That could be age-related, fitness-related, or both? A tract of his on-field movement today will show he runs 20 metres either side of the halfway line in a straight line.  He has to run further, wider and faster or he in danger of ruining his reputation as a top referee.

GT at 2014-11-29 15:36:47

…and the visitors take all three points which moves them back into the top four.

GT at 2014-11-29 15:36:16

Game over

GT at 2014-11-29 15:35:22

1 minute left and it’s attack, attack!

GT at 2014-11-29 15:34:55

Yellow Card

for Oxlade Chamberlain.

Good call by Chris Foy

GT at 2014-11-29 15:32:27

the 90 minutes are up, and 4 extra are to be played

GT at 2014-11-29 15:32:06

Gardner smashes one towards goal but an Arsenal deflection takes the ball away for a corner to WBA

GT at 2014-11-29 15:30:36

Foy puts in a rare sprint with 2 minutes of regular play to go.

Was that one for his watching bosses back at the Premier League?

GT at 2014-11-29 15:28:51

Oxlade Chamberlain challenges Samaras for the ball but gets hurt himself.

Chris needs to be sure all of this stoppage time is added on.

GT at 2014-11-29 15:26:46

Yellow Card

for WBA’s Gamboa for a clear shirt pull.

Good decision.

GT at 2014-11-29 15:26:17

Arsenal take a long time over a throw-in.

I would like to see Foy get on top of these delaying tactics early.

Failure to do so lets the platers believe it’s acceptable and they do it even more

GT at 2014-11-29 15:23:19

10 minutes to go and the game is alive at last

GT at 2014-11-29 15:22:57

Mertesacker takes one in the midrift, WBA then crash one against the crossbar.

Game on…

GT at 2014-11-29 15:21:58

The Arsenal substitute is lucky not to be cautioned for simulation as he falls to the ground.

Foy was a distance behind him…maybe that is how the Arsenal man got away with that one.

GT at 2014-11-29 15:19:57

Oxlade Chamberlain replaces Giroud for Arsenal

GT at 2014-11-29 15:18:39

Again, Foy is way too far from the incident as he awards a foul to WBA.

The decision may be correct but he has little chance of ‘selling’ it to the players from so far away.

Get closer Chris by getting wider, or do you not trust your fitness to get you back in position?

GT at 2014-11-29 15:16:09

Pocognoli goes off and is repplaced by Gamboa for WBA

GT at 2014-11-29 15:15:20

Arsenal turn the screw now, and go looking for that killer 2nd goal

GT at 2014-11-29 15:13:07

Foy was close to that appeal too, but could have viewed it better if he had taken a wider viewing angle.

Maybe the he would have reached the correct decision.

GT at 2014-11-29 15:11:41

Welbeck goes down and there are strong appeals for an Arsenal penalty.

Foy turns them down.

Whilst it wasn’t a penalty, as the foul was outside the area, it was a foul on the Arsenal man….but nothing was given.

GT at 2014-11-29 15:10:09

Cazorla’s crossing again caused concern in the WBA penalty area, but this time the defence does its job

GT at 2014-11-29 15:09:12

Good decision by Foy, for a pull on the WBA man

GT at 2014-11-29 15:06:20

Change for the home side as Anichebe replaces Mulumbu in an attacking move by Alan Irvine

GT at 2014-11-29 15:05:20

How critical could that poor offside decision become?

From having a great chance to take the lead snatched away from them, WBA are now a goal down

GT at 2014-11-29 15:04:30

…but it comes to nothing as WBA are caught offside

GT at 2014-11-29 15:04:01

Cazorla catches Sessegnon, and WBA have a dangerous free kick

GT at 2014-11-29 15:03:16

Welbeck is the man, for the 11th time this season, as he smashes a header past Ben Foster.

The visitors go one up…

GT at 2014-11-29 15:02:13

GT at 2014-11-29 15:02:05



GT at 2014-11-29 15:01:57

Foy awards a free kick to Arsenal when that same assistant was better placed.

Where was the communication?

GT at 2014-11-29 15:00:51

Corner awarded by the same assistant who incorrectly awarded ‘that’ offside.

A better call this time…

GT at 2014-11-29 14:59:10

It’s a better game now…with both teams opening up

GT at 2014-11-29 14:58:19

Foy is miles behind play as he awards a free lick to WBA but fails to caution the Arsenal defender who clearly came through the back of his opponent.

Had Chris been in a decent position I am sure he would have seen that differently and issues a yellow card

GT at 2014-11-29 14:56:31

Berahino hits the side netting when he should have hit the target, or passed to a team mate

GT at 2014-11-29 14:55:32

Yellow Card

Caution for WBA’s Dorrans as he stops a promising Arsenal attack.

Good decision Chris Foy.

GT at 2014-11-29 14:54:53

For you aspiring assistants out there….use everything at your disposal to help you.

There are clear grass cutting lines out there which you can use to help your offside calls.

If you follow the lines of the grass it is obvious and clear as daylight that Berahinho was behind the Arsenal defender and should never have been given offside.

That is so frustrating for players and supporters…and poor lining.

GT at 2014-11-29 14:51:20

Offside given by Hatzidakis which denies WBA a great opportunity for the opening goal.

It is a poor, poor decision by the assistant referee as Berahinho had timed his run to perfection.

GT at 2014-11-29 14:47:01

There are 45 minutes to go as the Baggies get the second half underway.

The game needs an early goal to get it going, and Chris Foy needs to add some spark into his positioning and movement.

I have know Chris a long time, and neither speed nor agility were ever issues when I ran the line for him.

Is it time for Foyboy to move aside and allow a younger and fitter official through?

Let us know what you think and give us your views by contacting us either on Twitter @youaretheref or email us at Info@you-are-the-ref.com

GT at 2014-11-29 14:39:41

Arsenal may be asking questions of the penalty appeal they had on Giroud.

No penalty for me, Mulumbu cleared the ball and Giroud went down far too easily.

GT at 2014-11-29 14:31:24

Half Time

Half time is on us.

It’s been a quiet game so far.

One excellent decision was the offside given by Mick McDonough to disallow the WBA effort.

Chris Foy has to make changes to his movement. He is running 20 metres either side of the halfway line, on a straight line.

He must get much wider and much deeper to get into optimum viewing angles and, importantly, get out of the way of the players

GT at 2014-11-29 14:26:13

Foy is in the way of open play yet again, WBA players are having to pass the ball around him.

Get wider and deeper and out of the way…

GT at 2014-11-29 14:25:16

Offside from McDonough chalks off a WBA ‘goal’

Excellent decision – very tight call

GT at 2014-11-29 14:24:00

For all aspiring and up-and-coming referees, take a look at Foy’s running style.

He appears to struggle to get going from a standing-start…and it’s down to his sprinting style.

He takes too many short, little steps instead of quickly getting into his stride.

Is that poor fitness, ageing legs, or a combination of both?

GT at 2014-11-29 14:21:29

A series of no fouls there – for both sides – and Foy got them all correct

GT at 2014-11-29 14:19:05

Excellent tackle by Pocognoli. If he had mistimed that one it would have been a penalty to Arsenal

GT at 2014-11-29 14:17:19

No foul there, and Foy is kidded into it by the WBA man

GT at 2014-11-29 14:13:14

But then Foster undoes all of that work when he tries to dribble the ball past Giroud, loses it, but the angle is too tight for the Arsenal man to take advantage

GT at 2014-11-29 14:11:33

Welbeck was the guilty party, as he failed to score….but credit to Foster who read the play superbly well

GT at 2014-11-29 14:10:51

Top save by Foster as Arsenal miss a fantastic chance to score

GT at 2014-11-29 14:08:26

Arsenal make a change as the injured Monreal is replaced by Gibbs

GT at 2014-11-29 14:07:50

Foy misses a great opportunity to play a great advantage for WBA.

That really infuriates players, managers and fans…when the team who ‘earned’ the free-kick end up being punished by a referee who did not take the time to see if an advantage came.

GT at 2014-11-29 14:06:02

Foul to Arsenal.

Standard decision. Nudge on the Arsenal man.

GT at 2014-11-29 14:05:16

20 minutes have gone, and it’s been a quiet affair so far.

The game needs a goal to spark it into life.

Foy and his colleagues won’t be complaining though, and neither will the referees’ boss Riley who could do with a weekend of no controversy

GT at 2014-11-29 14:01:22

But it comes to nothing, and WBA counter attack

GT at 2014-11-29 14:01:04

Advantage played by Foy to set up an Arsenal attack

GT at 2014-11-29 13:59:48

Good assistance for Foy there from McDonough who signalled the ball out of play for a throw-in.

Tight call, but a good one

GT at 2014-11-29 13:56:50

Arsenal, against the run of play, have a good effort blocked by the WBA defender

GT at 2014-11-29 13:54:16

Again Foy finds himself in a poor position as he bumps into an Arsenal defender who was about to close down an opponent

GT at 2014-11-29 13:52:19

It’s been a recurring theme that we’ve covered extensively here on YATR – referees not getting into the best positions. Is it a case of poor fitness or a lack of willingness to work hard?

Let us know what you think and give us your views by contacting us either on Twitter @youaretheref or email us at Info@you-are-the-ref.com

GT at 2014-11-29 13:49:54

I hope that was a one-off and Chris is going to put the hard yards in today, penetrating both penalty areas and getting deep and wide around the field

GT at 2014-11-29 13:48:27

Looked like Berahino was being held down as he challenged by the ball, but Foy had not got himself into a position to see it

GT at 2014-11-29 13:47:08

Followed by a good advantage to WBA as they attack

GT at 2014-11-29 13:46:38

Nice free-kick close to the halfway for Foy to give.

Gets him settled into the game early.

GT at 2014-11-29 13:45:14

Arsenal take the kick-off and get us underway…

GT at 2014-11-29 13:40:52

It’s almost time for kick-off at The Hawthorns on another special day of Premier League football.

GT at 2014-11-29 13:29:20

As for our referees today…

Chris Foy leads the team of officials for this clash.

He has Mick McDonough and Constantine Hatzidakis as his two Assistant Referees, with Neil Swarbrick making up the quartet.

52 year-old Foy is a veteran of 253 top flight matches, in which time he has issued 686 cautions and 36 red cards, meaning experience should never be an issue for ‘Foyboy’ as he likes to be known amongst colleagues.

Earlier this year he came under the spotlight after he sent Chelsea supremo Jose Mourinho to the stands in their game at Aston Villa. Mourinho was careful in his post-match comments about Foy, but clearly unhappy.

Arsenal manager, Wenger, on the other hand, was more open in his criticism of Foy a little over a year ago after the Liverpool-whistler dismissed Mikel Arteta in a game against Crystal Palace. Wenger is quoted as saying,“I honestly believe it was the wrong decision. Why? Because it has to be a clear goalscoring opportunity. It was very far from goal, he was not the last man, and even the foul was, to me, accidental. So I think he got that wrong.”

On a more positive note, Foyboy has taken charge of two cup finals since his promotion to the Premier League.

In 2009 he oversaw Man United’s penalty shoot-out victory against Tottenham Hotspur. Then followed the 2010 FA Cup Final victory for Chelsea against Portsmouth.

Good luck to the team…may the ball run kindly for you gents.

GT at 2014-11-29 13:18:12

Hi everyone, and welcome to todays’ live Refcam commentary on the Premier League game West Bromwich Albion v Arsenal.

The hosts will be looking for improvements in their defence today, after conceding at least two goals in six of their last seven home league games.

England-wannabe Saido Berahino is Alan Irvine’s stand-out performer this season, having bagged seven of West Brom’s league goals.

However, do not slip into the belief that the Baggies are massive underdogs for this one. The table is so tight this season that three points today could see them move to within a single win of a Champions League spot.

But…and it is a huge ‘but’ for Manager Irvine…West Brom haven’t won this fixture since 2005.

So, history suggests another win for the Gunners, but they too are not without their problems.

With Jack Wilshere reportedly out for up to three months, and his team currently only 8th in the league, Manager Arsene Wenger has plenty to think about.

He has seen the Arsenal waste a host of chances against Man United and squander the lead against Swansea, meaning defeats in their last two league games.

A bright light in Wenger’s darkness has however been the form of Danny Welbeck. The England striker has notched ten goals for club and country so far this season, and looks to be a great buy.

With such prolific strikers on show today there should be goals in this one, with some open and attacking football.