Swansea City v Stoke City
Commentary By: Guy Beale
FINAL SCORE: 0 - 1
GB at 2015-10-19 22:02:26
Well Mr Madley, that one sets you up nicely for your next appointment which is probably the most high profile fixture you have ever refereed in your career, the little matter of the North East derby between Sunderland and Newcastle.
I couldn’t help thinking Robert had one eye on next Sunday already and even looked like he was feeling the pressure of that appointment even before this game started as he let the teams compete in the first 25 minutes with 11 free kicks and no cards. I was happy to support him at the time and to be fair he did later raise his profile when required as the first half progressed and then kept his involvement at a satisfactory and consistent level into the second half.
I mentioned several times in the first half that Robert Madley’s movement was much better in this game than the last time I watched him. This was so important when he made a lot of “unpopular” decisions in the first half – the closer you are the better view you have and the easier it is to sell your decisions.
My slight reservations in my half time summary turned out to be unjustified as the referee kept up a good standard right to the end and did not need to take any chances or rely on any luck in the second half. He may just have over-played the advantage a couple of times and he needs to be very careful with that in his next game, but all in all he can afford to feel very pleased with his nights work.
In the second half he maintained his better positioning and movement which significantly enhanced his overall performance which is precisely what YATR have been encouraging him to do all season.
In fact he had a full house for me tonight.
Movement – TICK
Positioning – TICK
Effort – TICK
Recognition of foul play – TICK
Accuracy of Key Match Decisions – TICK
Very well done tonight Mr Madley, it looked like you really worked extremely hard and that you had nothing left in the tank – just as it should be. And NOW you can start looking forwards to Sunday – Good Luck with that one too!
Robert was ably assisted by all his colleagues today with just Marc Perry having a routine off-side call to make to disallow a goal to Stoke City, but it still goes down as a Key Match Decision which he got right, so he won’t worry how straight forwards it was.
That’s it for me tonight
Hope to see you again next weekend!
GB at 2015-10-19 21:51:35
My final summary will follow in a few minutes.
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GB at 2015-10-19 21:51:01
Swansea City 0 – 1 Stoke City
GB at 2015-10-19 21:49:38
AR1 MM gets his first off-side of the game in added time
GB at 2015-10-19 21:47:39
minimum of 3 added minutes to be played
GB at 2015-10-19 21:46:02
RM showing his man-management skills then right to the end as he explained his decision to the players
GB at 2015-10-19 21:44:57
good delayed flag by MP then and correct signal for off-side as soon as the player became involved in the play by moving towards the ball
GB at 2015-10-19 21:42:40
The referee was well placed again to judge that challenge in the Stoke City penalty area and was correct not to award a penalty for a perfectly good challenge
GB at 2015-10-19 21:40:24
No doubt that was a careless challenge – yes he got some of the ball – but as I used to say to the players “you can get the ball with a gun!”
GB at 2015-10-19 21:38:38
10 more minutes of real effort required by all the officials now to close this game out and not waste all the effort they have put in so far
GB at 2015-10-19 21:37:21
And it is that unpredictability which the officials need to be alert to and to always expect the unexpected!
That starts with a substitution as the officials need to be aware of what tactics they have been sent on with
GB at 2015-10-19 21:35:54
I have only seen a few Monday night games this season and this one is the best for me as it always feels like it is not easy to predict what will happen next
GB at 2015-10-19 21:32:06
Talking of all those advantages, I hope RM does not push his luck too far in the clouting stages and remembers to keep the tempo under control and resort to a more safe refereeing style as soon as the temperature starts to rise, which it surely will as Stoke stay in the lead
GB at 2015-10-19 21:29:18
The foul count has been much less in the second half with only one foul in the first 25 minutes of the second period compared with 11 in the first 25. There have been a lot of great advantages played as well though
GB at 2015-10-19 21:27:23
RM has demonstrated how to use a backwards run effectively a lot in this game so far
GB at 2015-10-19 21:23:18
Robert Madley is looking much more like the referee who we have seen for the first part of the season before his trip to Stamford Bridge – its all about concentration to the end now.
Another good advantage which resulted in a for Xherdan Shaqiri (SC 22) reflects the confidence the referee is displaying tonight
GB at 2015-10-19 21:18:37
Another really powerful sprint demonstrated by the referee again through the centre as the play switched from one end to the other
GB at 2015-10-19 21:15:56
That was a much better area on the field of play foor RM to play an advantage and the subsequent for Jonjo Shelvey (SW 8) was fully justified.
What a shame it did not end in a goal but for the correct first off-side of the game by AR2 Marc Perry
GB at 2015-10-19 21:12:53
Because it is my job to watch the referee all the time (!), I can’t help repeating again that I am much more impressed by his movement again in the early stages of the second half.
GB at 2015-10-19 21:10:23
with the “very slight delay” by Stoke City at the taking of that last throw-in, this will be a factor which the referee needs to stay ahead of the longer the Away team stay in front
GB at 2015-10-19 21:08:57
The second half has started with less tempo than the first half finished with so the referee has been able to drop his profile again as the players are just getting on with it
GB at 2015-10-19 21:05:25
Advantage played deep into Stoke’s half then by RM – confidence or over-confidence, we will see this half
GB at 2015-10-19 21:02:27
Second half under-way and the pressure will start to mount even more on the referee the longer Stoke stay in front
GB at 2015-10-19 20:58:30
So far so good – just about.
By that I mean that Robert Madley has occasionally walked a tightrope in that first half and got away with a few things, even if the Home supporters do not agree with how he has managed the game so far.
No doubt the early penalty was the right decision and there have been few surprises in any of the rest of the referee’s recognition of foul play. He was consistent with the way he held back with the first yellow card and was “unlucky” that the first one went to a Home player when the Away team had committed most of the careless challenges. Robert Madley then missed an opportunity to even things up when he played a great advantage following a foul by a Stoke City player but did not go back issue the yellow card.
Just before the first yellow card when two players came together in front of AR2 Marc Perry, I felt it was a case of the Assistant trying too hard to mirror the referee’s tolerance level. Some times as an Assistant you must “just give it”.
I talked a lot about the challenge by the Stoke City goalkeeper in my blog and I still maintain the referee just about got away with that one because the player played the ball cleanly and had a leg on the ground at the point of contact – it was close though – what do you think?
GB at 2015-10-19 20:48:56
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GB at 2015-10-19 20:47:21
Swansea City 0 – 1 Stoke City
GB at 2015-10-19 20:46:20
Erik Pieters (SC 3) got his eventually but I felt RM missed an opportunity to even the yellow cards up just before then when he played an advantage in front of the technical areas
GB at 2015-10-19 20:43:10
Ashley Williams (SW 6)
Thats what I was talking about the first yellow card needs to be a good one – clear illegal use of the arm and reckless challenge and I have no issue with that, but when the opposition have committed the lion’s share of the offences as a referee you really want them to get the first yellow card – cant always happen though!
GB at 2015-10-19 20:39:50
When the ball is running for you then you get the breaks with those 50/50 challenges – add that one to the challenge by the goalkeeper and RM is riding his luck tonight and getting away with it
GB at 2015-10-19 20:38:10
There is definably much more spark in the referee’s movement this evening. He is adjusting his position even slightly all the time and moving about as the play moves towards the penalty area in order to give himself the best vein. It is also noticeable how he is sprinting when required as well as re-adjusting his position in the centre of the field of play
GB at 2015-10-19 20:33:49
replays of the earlier incident with the challenge by Jack Butland (SC 1) showed again that he did not have two feet off the ground for the whole challenge – it was close though! It could have very easily ended in a Red Card not a Yellow one. The position of the referee certainly helped him to sell his decsion
GB at 2015-10-19 20:29:57
I mentioned in my pre-match notes that one of Robert Madley’s strong points is his willingness to try to communicate with the players and manage them without cards, and so far in this game he has stuck to what works for him
GB at 2015-10-19 20:25:24
When the foul counts goes up like this (11 so far in 24 minutes), as a referee you want your first caution to be for “a good one”!
GB at 2015-10-19 20:23:14
The careless challenges are starting to mount up in this game now but the referee is recognising them and dealing with them as the come. There may be a case for someone to take a card for the team in a moment but so far I think the referee has handled the physical content well without over-reacting
GB at 2015-10-19 20:21:15
The fact that the goalkeeper got the ball cleanly in that earlier challenge obviously affected the referee’s decision not to penalise him
GB at 2015-10-19 20:19:51
That was an interesting challenge by the goalkeeper jumping in with “both feet off the ground”?
Replays show that actually one of his legs was always on the ground and the referee had an excellent view of it demonstrating his better positioning so far in this game. Another big call for Robert Madley, but for me just about got that one right as well
GB at 2015-10-19 20:16:47
First test for the referee to demonstrate his tolerance level in this game. The expectation was certainly for the foul to be given and he has now set his stall out with his clear public warning and nothing else for the offender
GB at 2015-10-19 20:14:44
good free kick as RM spotted the slight shirt pull leading to the free kick being wasted
GB at 2015-10-19 20:13:10
even that slight backwards movement as the play moved towards him was better than the last time I watched this referee, who was inclined to just drop anchor last time and watch the players move around him – well done – keep it up
GB at 2015-10-19 20:10:53
RM just making his mark on the game again then by making sure the throw-in was taken from the right place. Important to get those things out of the way early so they do not cause the referee problems later in the game
GB at 2015-10-19 20:09:18
now that WAS a “deliberate” foul!
GB at 2015-10-19 20:08:44
Straight forward careless foul picked off by RM – note that the contact may not have been deliberate to bring the player down but it was still a foul challenge in accordance to the laws of the game
GB at 2015-10-19 20:06:54
Great start from tonight’s referee who proves the importance of hitting the ground running. His confidence must be sky high now after the lack of debate about that Key Match Decision which he got right!
GB at 2015-10-19 20:04:56
Penalty – which had to be given!
Have to say the attacking player made sure he was fouled, but the defender gave the referee a decision to make and he got it right
Bojan Krkic (SC 27)
Swansea 0 – 1 Stoke
GB at 2015-10-19 20:02:49
I know it is still very early doors, but already RM seems to have a bit of a spring in his step for a change tonight
GB at 2015-10-19 20:01:19
AR1: Mike McDonough (MM) is patrolling the touchline in front of the technical areas.
GB at 2015-10-19 20:00:08
Stoke City won the toss so it will be Swansea City to kick off.
Good luck to all the officials and may the ball run kindly for you!
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GB at 2015-10-19 19:55:47
Not long to go now as the players and officials prepare to leave the tunnel
GB at 2015-10-19 19:48:10
Robert Madley is rewarded with his 7th appointment of the season, despite being the centre of attention following his last outing at Stamford Bridge. Jose Mourinho ended up by grabbing all the headlines after this game for complaining that ‘referees never give’ penalties to the Blues, when in fact Southampton actually had more grounds to complain about not being awarded a spot kick on two occasions in that game.
I said at the time that it was “fair play” to the PGMOL to give Madley an opportunity to show what he is made of on a big stage, but even his staunchest supporter would have to concede that he didn’t exactly set the world alight on the day.
So here he is again, about to take to the field of play for his 5th LIVE TV game this season, hoping to regain the momentum he was starting to display before his last outing.
This will be my second chance to comment on Robert’s officiating this season, and whilst I remain a big fan of the way he uses his presence and personality to very good effect in his management of the players, I hope that we can start to see some improvement in his movement and overall positioning awareness which he needs to display if he is going to seriously challenge his peers for more of the top games.
Followers of my previous RefCams will know my views about the tangible benefits of Referee’s and Assistants working in regular teams, so I am pleased to note that tonight’s Assistants Mike McDonough and Marc Perry are watching Robert’s back for the 5th straight time in a row this season. Setting aside the “dodgy penalty calls” in his last game, I still believe that it is a factor in how this referee has been performing this season that he has a settled crew of Assistants with him each week.
The appearance of Graham Scott for board holding duties tonight is an interesting one? As you may recall, Graham was announced as the only referee to be formally promoted to the Premier League Referees list for season 2015/16. One can only assume that he is now fully fit to take up his position, but I can’t help thinking that it is a little short-sighted to put him in the hot seat where he may be called upon to take charge of a Premier League game for only the second time in his career (first time was Burnley v Aston Villa November 2014) tonight, should Mr Madley become injured. It is hard to imagine that Graham can be “match fit” for a Premier League game, having only blown his whistle for the first time this season at Burnley v Bolton on Saturday! Let me know how you thought that game went on Twitter if you were there.
GB at 2015-10-19 19:43:25
Today’s officials are:
Referee: Robert Madley (RM)
AR1: Mike McDonough (MM)
AR2: Marc Perry (MP)
4th Official: Graham Scott (GS)
GB at 2015-10-19 19:38:44
Here are the starting line-ups for this game:
Lukasz Fabia?ski (SW 1)
Neil Taylor (SW 3)
Ashley Williams (SW 6)
Jonjo Shelvey (SW 8)
André Ayew (SW 10)
Bafetibis Gomis (SW 18)
Jefferson Montero (SW 20)
Angel Rangel (SW 22)
Gylfi Sigurðsson (SW 23)
Jack Cork (SW 24)
Modou Barrow (SW 58)
Ki Sung-Yueng (SW 4)
Leon Britton (SW 7)
Kristoffer Nordfeldt (SW 13)
Éder (SW 17)
Gylfi Sigurdsson (SW 23)
Kyle Naughton (SW 26)
Kyle Bartley (SW 27)
Jack Butland (SC 1)
Erik Pieters (SC 3)
Glenn Whelan (SC 6)
Glen Johnson (SC 8)
Marko Arnautovic (SC 10)
Joselu (SC 11)
Charlie Adam (SC 16)
Geoff Cameron (SC 20)
Xherdan Shaqiri (SC 22)
Philipp Wollscheid (SC 26)
Bojan Krkic (SC 27)
Marc Muniesa (SC 5)
Stephen Ireland (SC 7)
Marc Wilson (SC 12)
Ibrahim Afellay (SC 14)
Marco van Ginkel (SC 15)
Peter Crouch (SC 25)
Jakob Haugaard (SC 29)
GB at 2015-10-19 19:35:24
This fixture was an early season lower middle of the table clash on paper before a ball was kicked on Saturday, but both teams now find themselves closer to the bottom with only one place between them for this tussle. They will also both be looking at the this one as a game which they have got down for a win, so let’s hope that means we could be in for some top class entertainment as well as officiating.
Stoke City hold the edge in respect to current form on the back of two consecutive wins over Bournemouth and Aston Villa prior to the international break. These were very welcome victories for Potters Fans, after they failed to win their opening six Premier League fixtures.
Swansea on the other hand are currently in a similar drought which beset Stoke, as they look for a first win in five Premier League outings. In fact they have to look all the way back to the end of August for their last victory which was against Manchester United. Their poor EPL form is compounded by their exit from the Capital One Cup against Championship side Hull City, in amongst picking up just two points in their last four league games.
Stoke City do not have fond memories of their trips over the Severn Bridge however, having not recorded a win against the Swans in the last 22 years (only one win in their last 18 league visits to Swansea, Drawn 5 Lost 12). Swansea will be hoping to repeat last season’s result as well, which saw them cruising to a 2 nil victory against a Stoke side which was reduced to 10 men for the closing stages of the game back in May.
If Stoke can pull this one out of the bag tonight, it will be the first time they have won back-to-back Premier League fixtures on the road since December 2011!
GB at 2015-10-19 19:34:48
Welcome to this evening’s RefCam coverage of the Premier League game between Swansea City and Stoke City.
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