Southampton v Manchester United

Southampton v Manchester United

Commentary By: Guy Beale

FINAL SCORE: 2 - 3



GB at 2015-09-20 18:06:48

Thanks for your company and Good Night


FINAL SUMMARY

GB at 2015-09-20 18:05:55

You have seen the rest, now you have seen the best for the first time of RefCam this season!

 

Once again Mark Clattenburg leads the way and produces a performance that will ensure he will not be in the headlines tomorrow. But how does he make it look so easy?

 

To start with this was not a difficult game, but you need to get all the decisions right, whether they are BIG or small – which he did. And the way you ensure this is all based around a level of mental and physical fitness which underpins everything else. Mark has just demonstrated how vitally important it is to always be in the right place at the right time to accurately judge whatever the game throws up at you and then sell your decisions with confidence and authority.

 

Regrettably of course there will be comments made about the officials after this game as yet another goal is awarded because of a mistake by an Assistant. I know it was tight, and I fully accept that Simon Beck had the sun in his eyes, but you cannot wrap this one up in a pretty box – an error was made which ultimately changed the result of the game. Knowing Simon as I do, I am sure he is professional enough not to dwell on this one, but he will know that there is a lot at stake this season because if “his” referee is to be selected for the finals in France later this year, he can do without stacking up many more high profile mistakes like that if he wants to be by his side.

 

As for Jake Collin, he had a relatively quiet game as well and did everything he needed to do.


FULL TIME

GB at 2015-09-20 17:53:22

My final summary will follow in a few minutes.

 

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90+5

GB at 2015-09-20 17:52:45

Full Time

Southampton 2 – 3 Manchester United


90+3

GB at 2015-09-20 17:50:16

what a grandstand finish this is turning out to be


90+1

GB at 2015-09-20 17:48:27

with that second goal for the Saints, that off-side “goal” in the first half now becomes a result changer at this stage


90

GB at 2015-09-20 17:47:15

minimum of 5 added minutes to be played


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:46:00

Mark Clattenburg suddenly has a game to referee at last as the tension mounts in the closing stages


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:44:04

GOAL! Graziano Pellè (S 19)

 

Could that set up a close finish I wonder?

Southampton 23 Manchester United

 

 

 


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:41:08

Interesting incident with the player down with cramp then. The law is specific in that the referee should only stop the game if he thinks a player is seriously injured – cramp is not a reason to stop the game MC quite rightly waited for the players to put the ball out of play


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:38:31

10 minutes to go and the officials will be looking to close this one out now without raising their profile at this stage unless they really need to


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:36:36

There have been very few off-sides in this game so far – even one less than there should have been!


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:35:43

Yellow CardJosé Fonte (S 6)

 

Once again Mark Clattenburg was breathing down the players neck as he committed that reckless challenge. If he was further away he would not have sold the decision so easily.


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:33:57

Good refereeing again there, contact in the players face, not intentional, but still a foul. MC rightly taking the safe option and giving the free kick right in front of the technical areas


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:32:03

Excellent positioning again my the referee – right there to see NO foul and NO dive in the Manchester penalty area


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:30:12

Yellow Card Toby Alderweireld (S 17)

A mandatory caution

 

A caution for unsporting behaviour must be issued when a player holds an opponent to prevent him gaining possession of the ball or taking up an advantageous position


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:28:19

MC forced to take evasive action twice then to keep out of the way of the ball. He needs to ensure he does not relax and keep reading the game as his positioning is one of his strongest characteristics


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:26:08

GOAL! Juan Mata (MU 8)

 

Can’t see a way back for the Saints now

 

Southampton 1 – 3 Manchester United


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:24:44

The officials need to keep focussed as the style of match play changes


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:21:45

I have said it many times before but I do like a referee who is not afraid to press inside of the penalty area if the play demands it. I know there is a scholar of thought that referees do not need to go too deep, but my view is that if you have the fitness then why not use it?


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:18:46

look at that signal again! straight arm “punched” out firmly – watch and learn what a difference it makes to the overall perception of the referee – confident and assertive


GB at 2015-09-20 17:15:35

Thanks for your comments on Twitter Harry

Harry Chambers @hchambers13

@youaretheref the shade will be darker than on TV, throw in the dark United socks/kit, that can’t have helped the AR!

Interesting thought


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:14:16

Fantastic shot there of MC keeping pace with some of the fittest players in the Premier League as the play switched from one end to the other


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:13:17

Good man management displayed there by the referee. Everyone in the ground now knows that player has used up all his chances and will be cautioned for his next offence – the trick is to carry that out of course


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:11:18

Mark Clattenburg has this game just where he wants it but he will be aware that could all change on one big key match decision


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:08:04

GOAL!  Anthony Martia (MU 9)

You cannot afford to make mistakes like that playing against the Red Devils

Southampton 1 – 2 Manchester United


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:06:22

It has to be said that the players are displaying a lot of respect towards each other so far in this game


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:05:39

Simon Beck could be seen covering his eyes from the sun again then.

 

I used a cap at Watford once but I seem to remember the practice was later not recommended. I wonder if that “goal” in the first half will open that debate again


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GB at 2015-09-20 17:03:36

Everything about this referees body language say he is alert and focussed


45

GB at 2015-09-20 17:02:07

Second half is underway


HALF TIME

GB at 2015-09-20 17:00:53

There was talk at half time in the studio about the possibility that Simon had the sun in his eyes which made have affected his decision making what do you think about Assistants where caps in those circumstances?

 

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HALF TIME SUMMARY

GB at 2015-09-20 16:56:37

Well That just goes to show how just one moment of lack of concentration or loss of focus can change the shape of a game. This was a regulation performance by Mark Clattenburg, but all the talk now is about another goal which the TV evidence has proved should not have been awarded.

Simon Beck will be gutted when he sees that one back and realises his mistake – yes it was close, but those are the ones you earn your money getting right! He even had the edge of the penalty area line to help him make that decision and he was perfectly positioned looking across the defensive back line.

In the dressing room now the team will be discussing the decision but they will not want to know if it was right or not until the end of the match. Years ago there used to be TV monitors switched on in the dressing room at half time but that practice has now been stopped, particularly when it is a live TV game.

All about mental toughness now to put that decision behind them and get out there and finish the job.


HALF TIME

GB at 2015-09-20 16:48:41

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HALF TIME

GB at 2015-09-20 16:48:03

Half time summary to follow shortly


45+1

GB at 2015-09-20 16:47:22

Half Time

Southampton 1 – 1 Manchester United


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GB at 2015-09-20 16:46:01

Great alertness shown there by MC as he sensed that the injured player was not moving so he needed to stop the game

1 minute of added time announced


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GB at 2015-09-20 16:42:47

Good learning point there as MC blow his whistle to sell that corner decision. No need to blow for every corner but use the whistle when you need to emphasise a point


40

GB at 2015-09-20 16:41:34

Going back to that Man Utd goal, the only thing I can think is his line of vision was towards the player who headed the ball forwards so in that split second he lost focus on the position of the attaching player who was off-side. I cant agree with the commentators – the correct position for the assistant is in line with the defender – which is where he was


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GB at 2015-09-20 16:38:25

It was a very tight call, but it must be said that the replays have confirmed that Martia was returning from an off-side position in the build up to that goal. Simon Beck was perfectly placed in line with the second rearmost defender so he really should have picked that one up.


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GB at 2015-09-20 16:35:23

GOAL! Anthony Martia (MU 9)

That goal seemed to come from nowhere

Southampton 1 – 1 Manchester United

 


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GB at 2015-09-20 16:34:16

The game is hardly being played at a blistering pace so the referee just needs to keep his position within an optimum distance of the ball by using his experience to read the play


30

GB at 2015-09-20 16:31:21

I am starting to lose count of the amount of advantages MC is playing whilst never letting this tactic affect his control


29

GB at 2015-09-20 16:30:23

The tackles are starting to get stronger now and MC sensibly using the stepped approach and talking to the players regarding these careless challenges


27

GB at 2015-09-20 16:29:14

Safe refereeing then. So important to manage the players expectations and give those simple fouls rather than trying to be too clever and keeping the game moving. Decisions like that stop the players taking matter into their own hands later


27

GB at 2015-09-20 16:27:41

remarkably little grappling going on at these corners in this game I am pleased to say


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GB at 2015-09-20 16:26:57

The referee was well placed then to dismiss any appeals for a penalty to Southampton


25

GB at 2015-09-20 16:26:00

MC just letting everyone know he saw that strong challenge but was happy that it was necessaries to stop the play for in in the centre of the field of play


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GB at 2015-09-20 16:24:39

I will keep on and on about this referee’s signals. I wish the young referees I coach would learn that you do not need to be a showman or have your own fancy signals – just do the basics well and don’t draw unnecessary attention to yourself


20

GB at 2015-09-20 16:21:28

That first 20 minutes seems to have flown by!


19

GB at 2015-09-20 16:20:54

MC communicating with Rooney there – no harm in explaining your decision if the player asks politely. Referees do not need to keep a running commentary of the game but there is no harm in being polite


17

GB at 2015-09-20 16:18:40

Another great educational piece then as MC ran across at took up his position looking down the edge of the penalty area – that line is the referee’s to cover and decide whether a challenge is inside or out


16

GB at 2015-09-20 16:16:55

MC just demonstrated how he weaves his positional runs as the play reaches the penalty area to maintain the perfect angle should a foul challenge go in


14

GB at 2015-09-20 16:15:32

Our refereeing team will be well pleased that the first goal did not have a whiff on controversy – long may that continue


12

GB at 2015-09-20 16:14:04

GOAL! Game ON! Graziano Pellè (S 19)

That looked like it was coming

Southampton 1 – 0 Manchester United

 


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GB at 2015-09-20 16:12:37

The art of good teamwork by the assistants is to tune into the referees tolerance level and not to signal for offences which the referee is allowing in order to keep the game flowing


10

GB at 2015-09-20 16:10:23

10 minutes gone and no sign of the aggression on display at Chelsea yesterday. The officials will be happy with how the game is settling in.


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GB at 2015-09-20 16:09:04

MC eager to play the advantage again in front of the technical areas


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GB at 2015-09-20 16:07:10

Being decisive and clear with your signals always helps the referee enhance his presence


5

GB at 2015-09-20 16:05:38

Just sit back and watch this referee’s signals. Always positive and assured like that goal-kick signal


3

GB at 2015-09-20 16:04:08

once again MC not missing the opportunity to give the easy free kick. The opening minutes are always very important for a referee to make his make and intentions clear to the players


1

GB at 2015-09-20 16:02:19

Great start my MC there – gave himself time to decide if there was and advantage there in the centre circle


GB at 2015-09-20 16:00:41

AR1: Simon Beck (SB) is patrolling the touchline in front of the technical areas.


KICK OFF

GB at 2015-09-20 16:00:13

Manchester United won the toss so it will be Southampton –  United to kick off.

It is unusual to see the teams switch ends after the toss these days

Good luck to all the officials and may the ball run kindly for you!

 

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PRE-MATCH

GB at 2015-09-20 15:55:33

Not long to go now as the players and officials prepare to leave the tunnel


OFFICIALS

GB at 2015-09-20 15:42:57

One of The Premier League’s top performers takes charge of his 4th game of this campaign in front of a live TV audience. Fresh from his last game which was Russia v Sweden on 5th September in the European Championship Qualifiers, Clattenburg will be really keen to stand out from the crowd once again this season for all the right reasons. His aim must be to make the decision as difficult as possible between himself and Atkinson as to who should be England’s representative at the finals in France (see Which English official will be used). To that end, he will be looking for a game which allows him to demonstrate his superior fitness and technique along with his consistent decision making and only raise his profile when it is really necessary. There are obviously no easy games to referee in the EPL, but on paper there is no history between these two teams so today’s referee will be hoping to stand back and merely “conduct” the proceedings, without becoming the centre of attention. That said, I hope there is a little more fizz in this game than the tame Tottenham v Crystal Palace affair earlier.

 

As for his Assistants today, I have commented before about the benefits of officials working in teams, and with Simon Beck as his wing man for the 4th time in this campaign, Clatts and Becky must instinctively know what each other are going to do even before either of them do it by now. Last season Simon was part of Mark’s crew for every single one of his 27 EPL appointments, and only missed 5 out of the referee’s 27 games in the season before that. Add to those figures every international assignment received by Mark in the past 2 years, and they must see each other more than their partners! On the other touchline, Jake Collin has also rarely been far away from Mark’s side when he enters the field of play and this is the 2nd time they have worked together this season, to add to the 16 matches they were paired together last season, including 7 out of their last 8 appointments. Jake is also Mark’s first choice for the opposite slot to Simon when he goes overseas as well.

 

With all that history, I have neatly set this crew up for some wonderful teamwork during this game, so I hope they can all live up to their billing!

 

Kevin Friend gets the chance to stand back and enjoy a master class from close quarters today and will no doubt be hoping not to be called into action, following a hard day at the office yesterday managing Bournemouth and Sunderland.


OFFICIALS

GB at 2015-09-20 15:40:18

Today’s officials are:

Referee: Mark Clattenburg  (MC)

AR1: Simon Beck (SB)

AR2: Jake Collin (JC)

4th Official: Kevin Friend (KF)


LINE-UPS

GB at 2015-09-20 15:38:52

Here are the starting line-ups for this game:

Southampton

Maarten Stekelenburg (S 22)

Maya Yoshida (S 3)

José Fonte (S 6)

Sadio Mané (S 10)

Dušan Tadi? (S 11)

Victor Wanyama (S 12)

Oriol Romeu (S 14)

James Ward-Prowse (S 16)

Toby Alderweireld (S 17)

Graziano Pellè (S 19)

Matt Targett (S 33)

Substitues

Kelvin Davis (S 1)

Cédric Soares  (S 2)

Shane Long (S 7)

Steven Davis (S 8)

Jay Rodriguez (S 9)

Cuco Martina (S 15)

Juanmi (S 20)

 

Manchester United

David De Gea (MU 1)

Marcos Rojo (MU 5)

Memphis Depay (MU 7)

Juan Mata (MU 8)

Anthony Martia (MU 9)

Wayne Rooney (MU 10)

Chris Smalling (MU 12)

Michael Carrick (MU 16)

Daley Blind (MU 17)

Morgan Schneiderlin (MU 28)

Matteo Darmian (MU 36)

Substitutes

Ashley Young (MU 18)

Sergio Romero (MU 20)

Ander Herrera (MU 21)

Luis Antonio Valencia (MU 25)

Marouane Fellaini (MU 27)

Bastian Schweinsteiger (MU 31)

Paddy McNair (MU 33)


PRE-MATCH

GB at 2015-09-20 15:38:11

St Mary’s Stadium is still one of the most popular venues for both officials and opponents to visit as it was one of the first “new builds” completed over 14 years ago. The facilities and hospitality on the South Coast have become legendary since they moved from the Dell in 2001.

 

Despite only having lost one game out of their 5 game so far this season, Southampton still find themselves just 5 places off the bottom with only 6 points before the start of this game. They will be hoping their home form continues today for certain, as they have won five and lost just one of their last seven EPL home games. Keeping that up against the Red Devils is not going to be easy though!

 

History points to this not being a dull affair, as Manchester United have not kept a clean sheet in any of their last seven league games against the Saints. Honours were even with a win a-piece last season with each team coming away with the points as visitors, so I do not expect this to be a “cagey” affair.


pre-match

GB at 2015-09-20 15:37:07

Welcome to our second RefCam coverage today of the Premier League game between Southampton and Manchester United.

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