Seattle Sounders FC v New York Red Bulls
Seattle Sounders FC v New York Red Bulls
Commentary By: Guy Beale
FINAL SCORE: 2 - 1
GB at 2015-06-01 00:19:04
I hope you enjoyed this RefCam today and trust you will tune in again for more MLS action next week Bye for now
GB at 2015-06-01 00:17:32
That just goes to show that even the best referees need a bit of luck – and the best of the lot make their own luck! The final result has ensured that the dreadful free kick given which led to the Red Bull’s goal in the first half had no effect on the final result, so Jose has used his get out of jail free card up today. Moving on from that one decision, I felt that the referee did really well today. He looked confident and competent throughout and managed the expectations of the players in a calm and controlled manner. What impressed me the most was the way he seemed to be one step ahead of the players and was prepared to stop the game regularly as and when the fouls started to mount up, and also ensured that the appropriate disciplinary sanctions were issued at the right times as well. Jose read the pattern of play well and displayed a good standard of fitness on a very large field of play. He moved well from end to end with a long purposeful stride pattern which served him well. He was always on his toes and changing his position all the time and never standing still watching play go on around him. The only slight improvement I would have liked to have seen was for him to enter the penalty area occasionally. If I was to be hyper critical, he did look to be slowing down at the end, but to be fair his work-rate throughout was first class. All-in-all Jose can feel well satisfied with his performance in this game. He was also ably assisted by two competent assistants who intervened every time they were required to which enhanced the teamwork all round.
GB at 2015-06-01 00:00:37
In this week’s edition of The Ref Show the team reflect on this year’s last games in the Premier League and also on who deserves to be mentioned in despatches for services rendered throughout the 2014/15 season. There was also an opportunity to reflect on the standard of officiating generally throughout the season and to express the panel’s views on the prospects for improvements in the evaluation and coaching systems for next year. All the previous editions remain available to view at The Ref Show which will continue to run throughout the closed season in England with much more emphasis on the MLS, starting from this week. As always, YATR values your opinions on all the points raised by out experts via Twitter @youaretheref or email us at Info@you-are-the-ref.com
GB at 2015-06-01 00:00:04
My final summary will follow in a few minutes. I hope that you can stay tuned right here next Saturday 6th June, when the richest prize in Europe is decided and You Are The Ref will bring you a ring-side seat from the referee’s perspective of the Champions League Final between Barcelona and Juventus KO 7.45pm. A list of all the big games coming up on YATR is always available at: http://you-are-the-ref.com/ref-cam/
GB at 2015-05-31 23:59:39
Seattle Sounders FC 2 – 1 New York Red Bulls
GB at 2015-05-31 23:57:42
Clint Dempsey (SS 2) Seattle Sounders FC 2 – 1 New York Red Bulls
GB at 2015-05-31 23:56:20
90 minutes up and minimum of 3 added on
GB at 2015-05-31 23:54:39
just in the last 5 minutes or so JRC seems to have shortened his stride and is looking like he is at last showing signs of slowing up on the massive pitch
GB at 2015-05-31 23:52:02
AR 1 good flag for foul right by him
GB at 2015-05-31 23:51:03
you can tell by the way the referee has increased the force of his whistle tone that he realises this is going to hot up right to the end
GB at 2015-05-31 23:49:54
the referee’s body language was very calm as the players gather round then, but he obviously missed the Sounder’s player swinging a boot after the whistle had been blow
GB at 2015-05-31 23:47:19
The officials should be encouraging each other to remain focussed to the end now. They have work hard and don’t want to spoil all that hard work right at the end
GB at 2015-05-31 23:44:38
well that was one way to manage the tempo by not letting the goalkeeper restart play with a ball on top of the net! That will work just as well.
GB at 2015-05-31 23:42:25
good intervention there by AR 2 MK. He really needed to give that foul as it was his call so close to him
GB at 2015-05-31 23:40:50
If JCR want to keep the lid on this he should try to be pro-active with the players and take charge of the tempo. Take some time out of the game to talk to the odd player to take the fizz out of these challenge after challenge resulting in free kicks
GB at 2015-05-31 23:38:56
Osvaldo Alonso (SS 6) Referee is finding himself needing to be reactive to all these fouls now.
GB at 2015-05-31 23:36:36
brilliant piece of skill by Marco Pappa (SS 10) Seattle Sounders FC 1 – 1 New York Red Bulls Now we have a game on!
GB at 2015-05-31 23:34:08
Felipe Martins (NY 8) Referee doing precisely what I suggested – cant argue with that! Well done ref!
GB at 2015-05-31 23:32:46
I expect this one to get a bit feisty the longer Red Bull remain in the lead so the referee will need to be ready to keep a firm grip on things
GB at 2015-05-31 23:30:35
The type of play by Red Bulls reflects what I expected them to do to stop Sounders using their passing game. The referee is controlling the tempo just as Red Bulls wants him to do, but he will need more than just free kicks to make sure the Red Bull tactics do not spoil the game
GB at 2015-05-31 23:27:24
Lloyd Sam (NY 10) That was excellent timing by the referee – the game really needed a caution then and for persistent infringement was the perfect cause as well
GB at 2015-05-31 23:25:32
JCR showing no signs yet that his work-rate is dropping at all as he remains on the move and on his toes
GB at 2015-05-31 23:22:51
JRC adjusting his tolerance level in this second half and is prepared to give free kicks for the slightest of physical contact
GB at 2015-05-31 23:21:21
that was a big call for the referee for a foul on Bradley Wright-Phillips (NY 99) but replays show that he actually kicked the defender rather than the other way around. Got that one right Jose!
GB at 2015-05-31 23:19:03
JRC already showing that he is aware that he needs to raise his profile in this second half – very firm talking to the players now
GB at 2015-05-31 23:17:41
Damien Perrinelle (NY 55) A mandatory caution A caution for unsporting behaviour must be issued when a player holds an opponent to prevent him gaining possession of the ball or taking up an advantageous position
GB at 2015-05-31 23:16:31
Jose making sure he has the last word with the players today. He is certainly using his communication skills to his advantage
GB at 2015-05-31 23:14:23
the players are beginning the second half by questioning the referee’s decision. Not always the best practice to a referee to be so “touchy feely” with the players – definitely not something you should try to copy. It seems to work for JCR but still not best to touch the players generally
GB at 2015-05-31 23:11:10
second half is under way
GB at 2015-05-31 23:09:49
That free kick for handball in the build up to the first gaol could be a candidate for the “Play of the Week” series on the official PRO Website.
GB at 2015-05-31 23:08:09
Well that first half showed just what a fine it can be for officials at the top to get just one decision wrong and effect the game. As soon as Jose blew his whistle in the 35th minute when the ball was deflected onto the Seattle Sounders defender’s hand, I thought to myself “I hope he has not given a free kick for hand ball for that”. But he had, and then Murphy’s Law said that NYRB would score from it. The player’s arm may have been high, but that really was not a deliberate act to handle the ball. Take that one decision out of the equation and Jose has not missed much at all and has controlled this game comfortable and seems to be interacting well with the players, even if they have not exactly agreed with every decision he has made so far. I have just checked the size of this field of play and it comes out as 110 yards long and 70 yards wide – I though it looked like a big pitch! Jose seems to be covering the ground well with a very long stride pattern which works well for him. He is a little inclined to stop his runs at the edge of the penalty area but I do not blame him in the first half to conserve some energy on this pitch. That said he will need to press in to the penalty areas if necessary later in the game if the big calls come along in that area. Replays have just shown that AS1 Brian Dunn made a wonderful “not off-side” decision at the scoring of the goal by NYRB – the goal scorer was just level with the 2nd rearmost defender. Excellent lining! I expect things to spice up a bit in the second half as the home team press to get back into this game.
GB at 2015-05-31 22:55:42
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GB at 2015-05-31 22:54:52
Seattle Sounders FC 0 – 1 New York Red Bulls
GB at 2015-05-31 22:53:56
JCR continues his average of been within a credible distance of the offences when they are being committed
GB at 2015-05-31 22:50:53
Mk gets his first off side call out of the way and drops the flag down quickly to show the position of the offence was close to him
GB at 2015-05-31 22:48:30
1st time JCR has felt like raising his profile with that admonishment to the Red Bull’s player
GB at 2015-05-31 22:46:05
the referee could almost claim an assist with that by Lloyd Sam (NY 10) as that really was a soft free kick for hand ball which did not look deliberate to me
GB at 2015-05-31 22:44:26
not sure that was a deliberate hand ball offence for me
GB at 2015-05-31 22:42:46
JCR could be seen squeezing the play over towards his assistant in that last play which is a good tactic to us if you have the fitness to get back onto your diagonal path of control
GB at 2015-05-31 22:39:28
30 minutes gone and the referee has missed very little if anything in the game. Just one advantage played as the foul challenges have been straight forward to spot so far
GB at 2015-05-31 22:37:50
JCR showing good awareness then as he caught up with the play he still gave himself an angle on the play at the end of his run
GB at 2015-05-31 22:35:52
AR2 MK showing good practice again there with the way he is constantly changing the flag from one hand to the other to keep it closest to the referee and the field of play at all times
GB at 2015-05-31 22:33:30
good off side decision by MK – always nice to get the first one out of the way
GB at 2015-05-31 22:32:52
the challenges are certainly standing out
GB at 2015-05-31 22:31:37
the referee will need to keep a close eye on Bradley Wright-Phillips (NY 99) as the game progresses as he looks to be getting frustrated already
GB at 2015-05-31 22:27:51
good early direction signal by the referee near the half way line helps the teamwork with the assistant
GB at 2015-05-31 22:27:02
AR2 MK demonstrating best practice there in following the ball all the way back to the goalkeeper with real urgency not just jogging back
GB at 2015-05-31 22:25:08
JCR is reading the game well so far and anticipating where the play is going to develop
GB at 2015-05-31 22:23:29
it may only be a little trip there but it was still a foul. good spot JCR
GB at 2015-05-31 22:22:11
JCR is always on the move and on his toes so far. He may need to be careful not to burn himself out on such a big pitch. That said it is good to see such mobility
GB at 2015-05-31 22:20:01
10 minutes gone and the referee has picked out the challenges which he needs to manage so far
GB at 2015-05-31 22:18:53
point of law – a player cannot be penalised for impeding and opponent if he is within playing distance of the ball as the Red Bulls player was then as he shielded the ball over the goal-line
GB at 2015-05-31 22:17:29
I have seen AS1 BD before and I was impressed with his technical flag work then and he has started in the same vain today with that throw-in signal
GB at 2015-05-31 22:15:52
JCR is obviously keen to stamp his authority on this game early as I predicted, but he needs to make sure he only sees evil where there is evil !
GB at 2015-05-31 22:14:48
once again JCR was very close to that challenge which helped him sell his decision even if a few players did not agree with it
GB at 2015-05-31 22:12:39
JCR needed to be right on top of that challenge on the edge of the penalty area – great positioning
GB at 2015-05-31 22:11:19
JCR will be happy to get that first advantage out of the way and will hope the players allow him more opportunities to keep the game flowing like that
GB at 2015-05-31 22:10:17
AR1: Brian Dunn (BD) is patrolling the touchline in front of the technical areas.
GB at 2015-05-31 22:09:49
this is the first time I have seen this stadium and I have to say it looks like a very large playing surface
GB at 2015-05-31 22:08:46
New York Red Bulls Lake won the toss so it will be Seattle Sounders FC to kick off. Good luck to all the officials and may the ball run kindly for you! Feel free to interact with me during the game by joining in on Twitter @youaretheref or e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.org
GB at 2015-05-31 22:06:25
looks like a great atmosphere at the ground
GB at 2015-05-31 22:05:01
Weather report checked a few minutes ago suggests it is a balmy 17C in Seattle at the moment, so that should be perfect for the players and officials to perform to the best of their ability.
GB at 2015-05-31 22:04:38
Not long to go now as the players and officials line up
GB at 2015-05-31 21:59:25
If there is anyone tuning in from stateside who watched the FA Cup final yesterday, yet me know how you think the referee did.
GB at 2015-05-31 21:55:24
Every week, the USA Professional Referees Organisation’s (PRO) Training & Development Manager Paul Rejer, selects an example from each round of fixtures to highlight best practice, or to offer specific educational advice to officials when situations could have been managed better or when application of law was found wanting. Last weekend’s PRO Play of the Week clips highlighted an incident of gaining an advantage from being in an off side position from Wk 12s fixtures, and compared it to another incident from Wk 9 in order to offer unequivocal advice to officials working on the MLS as to precisely what the best practice is in these circumstances. PRO MLS Wk 12 Play of the Week If you spot something in tonight’s game which you feel would be worthy of a shout for the Play of the Week this week, contact me on Twitter @youaretheref or email us at Info@you-are-the-ref.com
GB at 2015-05-31 21:53:34
Today’s Assistants: AR1: Brian Dunn (BD) Brian joined the MLS in 2012 and has already been involved in a number of international fixtures but has yet to achieve FIFA status. This will be his 8th game this season to add to the 42 appointments he has received over the past 3 years. Brian Dunn has already been mentioned in despatches this season for his excellent call in Wk 4 in the New York City v Sporting Kansas game. He correctly informed the referee that he has made an error in awarding a penalty kick for hand ball by a defender, when in fact it was an attacking player who committed the offence – top class teamwork displayed in order to get the decision reversed before play was re-started! Just like in England, Assistant Referees in the States generally need to keep a job down as well and are also referees in their own right. So as well as refereeing top class college teams in front of thousands of fans, full time Math teacher Dunn, still maintains a link to his roots where he started officiating 13 years ago. When his schedule allows on weekends, he can be seen refereeing for the Eastern New York Youth Soccer Association and Long Island Junior Soccer League, doing youth soccer games in front of friends and family in local parks and schools. Good for you Brian! AR2: Mike Kampmeinert (MK) Mike joined the MSL in 2011 and had 54 games under his belt before the beginning of this season. This is his 7th game in this campaign and the first time he has been in today’s referee’s crew this season. When he is not running the line, Mike is a National Referee in the United Soccer League. Mike also earned some valuable praise in Wk 4 this season for his excellent “not” off-side call in the Vancouver v Portland game, which allowed the Vancouver player to go on and score, after being level with the second last defender when the ball was played through for him. 4th Official: Kevin Stott (KS) Well the referee should not have any worries about the technical areas getting out of hand today, with the vastly experienced Kevin Stott looking after this side of the ship. Now 48 years old, Kevin made his debut in the MLS way back in 1996, and can boast of 260 games in the middle in the last 19 seasons of uninterrupted service, as well as 47 Forth Official appointments.
GB at 2015-05-31 21:51:29
Today’s officials are: Referee: Jose Carlos Rivero (JCR) AR1: Brian Dunn (BD) AR2: Mike Kampmeinert (MK) 4th Official: Kevin Stott (KS) José is in his 4th full season of taking charge of MLS games. So far this season he has been on duty for 10 out of the 13 weeks since the season started and this will be his 8th middle (to go with 3 Forth Official appointments so far). In the 3 years before this season, José had completed 38 games in the top flight in North America. Here are the referee’s statistics for his regular league games in the MLS so far this season:
Whilst doing my research for this fixture, I discovered that today’s referee comes from New York, and it occurred to me that Seattle must be almost as far away as you can be from the Big Apple! So I then thought it might be interesting to analyse all of Mr Rivero’s appointments this season in respect to the distances Referees need to be prepared to travel in the MLS. (The following mileages are rough estimates of one way trip)
Wk 1: 4th Official: Philadelphia Union v Colorado Rapids = 100 miles
Wk 3: REF: Philadelphia Union v FC Dallas = 100 miles
Wk 4: REF: New England Revolution v San Jose Earthquakes = 225 miles
Wk 6: REF: D.C. United v New York Red Bulls = 225 miles
Wk 7: 4th Official: New York City v Portland Timbers = 50 miles
Wk 8: REF: Orlando City v Toronto FC = 1100 miles
Wk 9: REF: Sporting Kansas City v Chicago Fire = 1200 miles
Wk 10: REF: Real Salt Lake v Los Angeles Galaxy = 2200 miles
Wk 10: 4th Official: New York Red Bulls v New York City = 50 miles
Wk 12: REF: Colorado Rapids v Vancouver Whitecaps = 1770 miles
Wk 13: REF: Seattle Sounders v New York Red Bulls = 2857 miles
That equates to approximately just under 20,000 miles (all-round) travelled already, less than half way through the season. Looking at this appointment in particular today, it would only be another 700 miles one way for José to be at Stamford Bridge! The other comparison I made was the refreshing openness of the fact that here we have a referee being sent nearly 3000 miles to referee a team from his own City! Nothing wrong with that in my book, but it would never happen in England for Mark Cattenburg to be sent to London (a mere 300 miles) to referee Newcastle away to Chelsea!
Apart from some epic journeys to Eastern Europe in the Europa League, the furthest I ever travelled in the Premier League was from Taunton to Middlesbrough (300 miles), and I thought that was a long way!
That said, I can also recall doing over 20,000 miles on the road in one season as an Assistant Referee on the Select Group and FIFA, whilst also being a Panel League Referee in England. This type of commitment and availability to travel “any time, any place, anywhere” (just like the drink!), for up to 8 games a month at certain times of the season, whilst still keeping down a fully time career, is a factor which few people appreciate outside of the professional refereeing circles. The thing is, in England over 98% of the 250 Assistant Referees on the National List (which includes those in the Select Group), are operating as referees in their own right at one level or another, striving to make the next step up to become a referee on the Football League. These days though, the other 2% which make up the top performing Assistant Referees in the Select Group who are also on the FIFA List, may be offered a full time contract which allows them to concentrate solely on running the line as a profession and also means they not appointed to referee games at any level.
So you can see that Availability and flexibility is just as important as Ability and Fitness to make the grade as a top class official.
|Games||Fouls awarded||Yellows||Reds||Ave Yellow||Ave Reds|
GB at 2015-05-31 21:49:19
Here are the teams for this evening’s game: Seattle Sounders FC Stefan Frei (SS 24) Clint Dempsey (SS 2) Brad Evans (SS 3) Tyrone Mears (SS 4) Andy Rose (SS 5) Osvaldo Alonso (SS 6) Cristian Roldan (SS 7) Obafemi Martins (SS 9) Marco Pappa (SS 10) Chad Marshall (SS 14) Dylan Remick (SS 15) Substitutes Troy Perkins (SS 1) Aaron Kovar (SS 11) Leonardo Gonzalez (SS 12) Chad Barrett (SS 19) Zach Scott (SS 20) Lamar Neagle (SS 27) Micheal Azira (SS 42) New York Red Bulls Luis Robles (NY 31) Felipe Martins (NY 8) Lloyd Sam (NY 10) Dax McCarty (NY 11) Mike Grella (NY 13) Sacha Kljestan (NY 16) Karl Ouimette (NY 22) Chris Duvall (NY 25) Damien Perrinelle (NY 55) Kemar Lawrence (NY 92) Bradley Wright-Phillips (NY 99) Substitutes Connor Lade (NY 5) Roy Miller (NY 7) Anatole Abang (NY 9) Kyle Reynish (NY 18) Marius Obekop (NY 21) Sean Davis (NY 27) Dane Richards (NY 91)
GB at 2015-05-31 21:47:27
Here are current standings for the Eastern and Western Conference tables before this game:
I must confess that because we are just not used to this system in Europe, I still find the concept of teams from different league tables playing each other in the regular season slightly alien, as the points won and lost against teams not in one table affect the others? I suppose that with so many teams from each table going through to the play offs though, then the top performers will always fall out of the mix.
|2||New England Revolution||13||5||3||5||20|
|3||New York Red Bulls||11||4||2||5||17|
|5||Columbus Crew SC||12||4||4||4||16|
|7||Orlando City SC||13||3||5||5||14|
|10||New York City FC||13||1||7||5||8|
|1||Seattle Sounders FC||12||7||3||2||23|
|2||Vancouver Whitecaps FC||14||7||5||2||23|
|4||Sporting Kansas City||13||5||2||6||21|
|7||San Jose Earthquakes||13||5||5||3||18|
|9||Real Salt Lake||14||4||5||5||17|
|TOP 6 CLUBS IN EACH CONFERENCE REACH PLAYOFFS|
GB at 2015-05-31 21:45:48
This is the first meeting of these two teams this season. Last year the only time they crossed swords was at The Red Bull Arena in September, when the Home side took the honours with a 4 – 1 victory. Looking back further at the history of this match in regular MLS encounters, Seattle have won two of the 4 games played on the West Coast and there has been one tied game. Back in the Big Apple, The Bulls have also won two of their home games out of the 5 fixtures since 2009, with two tied games. That leaves the historical stats exactly the same at:
So something has got to give today!
|Draws||Red Bull Wins|
GB at 2015-05-31 21:42:56
The visitors also have two English players on the roster, including Bradley Wright-Phillips who won 2014 MLS golden boot, and tied MLS single-season goal scoring record with 27 goals. Bradley is now in his 3rd season with the Red Bulls since making the jump across the pond out of a loan spell with Brentford – I would not mind betting that he now considers that to be one of his better decisions! In contrast to the European boss of the Home side, The Bull’s Head Coach is an all American Boy from Racine, Wisconsin, who has amassed a wealth of experience playing and coaching in the MLS, as well as coaching with US Men’s National Team, serving as Bob Bradley’s assistant for the 2010 FIFA World Cup and the 2011 Gold Cup. The Bull’s last game in the MLS was the subject of last week’s RefCam when they went down 2 – zip at home to Philadelphia in a game which got quite feisty in the second half and showed that the boys from New York know how to fight their corner. Well they will certainly need to come out scrapping today if they have hopes of taking anything away from the West Coast. So once again I expect the officials to be well aware of that and to have set out a game plan to stamp their authority on the game early in the game, to counter any rough play by the visitors if necessary.
GB at 2015-05-31 21:40:57
Today’s hosts here at the 70,000-seater CentryLink Field (which is pared down to 38K for MLS games), have a couple of English players in their squad. Their two-time MLS Coach of the Year, German born Sigi Schmid, certainly knows how to compile a trophy winning roster, as he has led Sounders FC to five trophies and six-consecutive MLS Cup Playoff appearances since he joined the club in 2008. Judging by their current position in the Western Conference, it would appear that Sounders fans should be happy that all is going according to plan again so far this season. Seattle are rapidly building a reputation for being a solid passing team again this season with a whopping 667 attempts in their game against Colorado Rapids last week, to add to their impressive 716 tally against Sporting KC earlier in the season (highest ever for MLS is 802). From a referees perspective, he needs to be aware of the importance of such statistics, so he can be prepared for the possible spoiling or harassment tactics which the opposition might employ to break up the Home teams’ momentum. I will be interested to see if this happens today.
GB at 2015-05-31 21:38:58
Fans of the MLS in England and on State Side will be well aware that the Britts are coming soon as Steve Gerrard and Frank Lampard prepare to join LA Galaxy and New York City respectively now their work in England is done! So watch out for RefCam featuring games involving these two players as the season unfolds.
GB at 2015-05-31 21:38:18
The big story in England this weekend was the FA Cup final played out yesterday between Arsenal and Aston Villa which ended 4 – 0 to Arsenal, in one of the most one sided finals for many years. The referee was generally doing OK for the majority of the game, despite a little inconsistency in his recognition and punishment of foul play in the first half, but unfortunately he did not quite make it through to the end without a little controversy over a couple of big penalty calls. Luckily the game was over as a contest by the time the referee seemed to just loose a bit of focus at the end.
GB at 2015-05-31 21:36:36
Week 14 25 minutes before KO and welcome to this evening’s live RefCam coverage of game between two teams each sitting comfortably at the right end of their respective Conference League Tables, as Seattle Sounders FC (West 1) prepare to take on New York Red Bulls (East 3). Both of these teams were defeated in last season’s Conference finals. Feel free to interact with me during the game by joining in on Twitter @youaretheref or e-mail at email@example.com