Orlando City SC v New England Revolution
Commentary By: Guy Beale
FINAL SCORE: 2 - 2
GB at 2016-04-17 23:44:24
In the 89th minute of my blog I wrote “very exciting finish. the officials need to really be on their metal now so that the game is not decided by a controversial decision” – little did I know what was going to happen!
Let’s just look at those last two goals first in my summary. The build-up to Orlando’s 2nd goal actually started with a New England player jumping up in front of the Orlando player taking a throw-in, which is in its-self contrary to the laws of the game. The referee may have decided to play an advantage (although IMO he just ignored it), then when the ball falls to Kevin Molino (OC 18) in the penalty area, he clearly deliberately handles the ball to bring in under control, which goes un-noticed by all the officials, before he slots it into the goal.
If that wasn’t enough controversy, it all then kicks off at the other end!
Referee Baldomero Toledo, gives one of the worst hand ball decisions I have seen for a very long time when Lee Nguyen (NER 24) blasts the ball at Servando Carrasco (OC 5) from about 2 yards away, which brushes the Orlando player’s his upper chest, but the referee deems it a deliberate act of hand ball and gives a free kick outside of the penalty area. At this point he is surrounded by players from both teams – one set complaining that it was not a deliberate hand ball offence, and the other set saying that if it was deemed to be deliberate, then the re-start must be a penalty as the “offence” took place inside of the penalty area! Now sort that lot out!
Well here’s the thing ….. everything about the referee’s body language then shows that he is clearly been given advice from someone else over his ear-piece that the “contact” was definitely INSIDE of the penalty area – so he changes his decision and gives a PK. I have never seen anything like that before in 40 years! Unbelievable. For a start it was not an offence in the first place, then the referee gets what looks like assistance from someone who has seen the incident on a TV and changes his mind. The assistant at that end has definitely not helped him as he has moved back outside of the penalty area, and the referee is clearly looking towards the Technical areas and talking to someone over his er-piece.
I know that the MSL was named as one of the competitions which has been selected by FIFA to trial “video referees” for penalties, goals and red cards etc, but for a start I was not aware that it had started yet, and anyway even if it has (officially or not!?), this was a farcical example of what might be to come. The only thing a video referee could have told the real referee in that incident was that he has made a mistake with the original “hand ball” decision and that he should restart the game with a dropped ball!
I really expect this one to run and run, so remember where you heard it first on You Are The Ref!
So, if it is possible to park those last two major incidents for a minute, I need to sum up the rest of the referees performance. Even without the farce at the end, I found myself becoming less and less convinced that Baldomero Toledo really turned in a decent shift in this game. Yes of course he started with a fantastic penalty decision after 15 second, I will give him that. And I have to say that not everyone’s style is ever going to be the same. What works for one referee will not work for another, but I found myself thinking that the referee did not look like he was showing enough conviction and energy at times. By energy, I am not talking about physical exertion, because although he does not move around the field of play like a gazelle, he could not be criticised for being too far away from the play. In fact all the major decisions were given from a credible distance away. The energy I am talking about is in a lack of presence and positive body language and communication with the players. Far too often this referee just looked too laid back for me which eventually irritated the players as he seemed to just be going through the motions. As I said in my blog, there is nothing wrong with a referee looking calm and relaxed, but if you look like you are dismissive and don’t really care, then that can have an adverse effect on how you are perceived. Then when the big one (or two) comes along, you are left looking exposed.
So I am afraid I have to say that that is not the best performance I have seen from this referee by a long way, and as for the debacle at the end with the second New England goal, I doubt we have heard the last of that by a long chalk!
GB at 2016-04-17 22:58:19
My final summary will follow very shortly.
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GB at 2016-04-17 22:53:32
Orlando 2 v 2 New England Revolution
GB at 2016-04-17 22:52:01
Lee Nguyen (NER 24)
GB at 2016-04-17 22:51:08
A dreadful hand ball decision is originally given by the referee outside of the penalty area, then he seems to have got a word in his ear to say that was inside of the penalty area
GB at 2016-04-17 22:49:47
This is a MAJOR incident
GB at 2016-04-17 22:49:13
That was the type of controversial incident I warned about as there looked to be a deliberate hand ball by the Orlando player before he screed the goal
GB at 2016-04-17 22:47:44
Kevin Molino (OC 18)
GB at 2016-04-17 22:45:28
minimum of 3 added minutes to be played
GB at 2016-04-17 22:44:42
very exciting finish. the officials need to really be on their metal now so that the game is not decided by a controversial decision
GB at 2016-04-17 22:41:41
Going back to the goal-keepers rant at the referee, he just seemed to shrug his shoulders as if to say “So what?” This was an example of how he has just looked too laid back for my liking at times today
GB at 2016-04-17 22:39:52
The New England goalkeeper was furious then and told the referee why – because the throw-in was taken by Orlando about 15 yards further forwards than it should have been because a player took another multi ball. That was really poor teamwork from the officials and had a goal come from it there would have been genuine grounds for the New England team to complain.
GB at 2016-04-17 22:36:57
Big call then for Baldomero as the New England player went down in the Orlando penalty area and that was a great example of what I said at half time about his positioning as he was deep inside of the penalty area to see that the Orlando defensive player won the ball fairly
GB at 2016-04-17 22:34:54
The assistance speed across the ground was called into question then. I know the players are quick at this level, but you need to be able to keep up with them
GB at 2016-04-17 22:33:34
that was better, as the referee at least told the players to stop holding each other before the free kick was taken
GB at 2016-04-17 22:32:32
With the last attack and the ball being collected on the goal-line by the goalkeeper, I would have liked to see the referee at least moving into the penalty area, not hanging around on the edge of the “D”
GB at 2016-04-17 22:28:55
The players are starting to pick up on the referee’s laid back style now and question if he is going to show some emotion or take more action than just a tiny peep for these free kicks. There is an expectation that the referee needs to be seen to react accordingly to foul challenges. If a referee just keeps giving free kicks in a “matter of fact” sort of way, then the players can get frustrated and take matters into their own hands.
GB at 2016-04-17 22:25:43
A quiet period in the game for the officials means that they need to keep their concentration levels high so as not to get caught out by the unexpected!
GB at 2016-04-17 22:21:07
The Orlando player had every right to go for that ball before the goalkeeper got both of his hands on it in the New England penalty area
GB at 2016-04-17 22:19:19
important free kick just outside of penalty area and once again no communication with the offender by the referee
GB at 2016-04-17 22:18:01
I mentioned the referee getting in the way “occasionally” in the first half, that is the second time in this game now that the referee has found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time!
GB at 2016-04-17 22:16:39
That were another couple examples of a “give and go free kicks”. Sometimes a referee needs to manage the tempo by stepping in and giving out a few warnings to players as the free kick come thick and fast, otherwise they can soon escalate.
GB at 2016-04-17 22:14:42
I always encourage my referees to try to look calm and relaxed at all times, but there is a balance to be made if the referee looks and acts too laid back. This referee is never going to look flash or extrovert, but he needs to show some emotion so the players can judge his mood.
GB at 2016-04-17 22:12:27
Very “matter of fact” when he gives a decision but at least the was shown to Antonio Nocerino (OC 22) for that challenge from behind.
GB at 2016-04-17 22:09:59
Baldomero’s preferred tactic for dealing with dissent seems to be complete ignoring it. That can work, but I prefer to see a referee at least deal with is by making his opinion clear that such actions from the players will not be tolerated for the whole game.
GB at 2016-04-17 22:07:53
I would not have been surprised if that last foul by New England had prompted at least a “word” from the referee. So far we have seen very little evidence of him using his voice to communicate with the players to aid his control.
GB at 2016-04-17 22:06:06
Interesting couple of steps away from the corner flag then by KK before pointing to the flag to signify a corner. One step is normally all which is required – more than that and it could look like you are shaping up to signal for a goal-kick.
GB at 2016-04-17 22:03:20
I like the way this referee appears pro-active with his position at corners and seems happy to move in closer if required
GB at 2016-04-17 22:00:20
New England get the second half underway
GB at 2016-04-17 21:58:27
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GB at 2016-04-17 21:57:13
What a start to the game we had for this one with a penalty inside of 15 seconds!
You will never see a better example of why as a referee you need to hit the ground running as soon as you blow the whistle at the start of the game. Baldomero was not still in the locker rooms today and stepped right up to the plate to give the PK in a nano-second!
The next talking point for me was the early caution for Gershon Koffie (NER 7) for unsporting behaviour following a reckless challenge. At the time I voiced concern that the referee may have set his tolerance level too low at that stage of the game, but to be fair to him that caution certainly had the desired effect as the players have not committed anything like another yellow card offence since then!
I mentioned that the referees fitness and movement is “deceptive” as he definitely looks more like a marathon runner than a sprinter, as he has a tendency to “walk” around the centre of the field of play rather that zip around on his toes. But If you watch closely, he is always within a credible distance when decisions need to be made. The early penalty was a great case in point as he started to jog slowly as the Orlando team pressed forwards, but by the time the player was tripped from behind he was steaming in and was just outside of the penalty area when he gave the major call. He also did the “old trick” of keeping on running after giving the decision which helps to make you look closer than you were! Nothing wrong with that!
So far, the referee has looked very comfortable and totally in control.
Quiet game for both assistants so far who have had very limited opportunities to intervene. Just that one ball over the goal-line at Kermit Quisenberry’s end which did not get picked up.
GB at 2016-04-17 21:45:39
This week saw the latest article from our former Danish FIFA Official columnist Kim Milton Nielsen, who gives us some interesting reflections on Friendly frustrations and referee-turned-managers
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GB at 2016-04-17 21:44:54
Orlando 1 v 1 New England Revolution
GB at 2016-04-17 21:43:13
minimum of one added minute to be played
GB at 2016-04-17 21:42:36
This referees fitness is very deceptive as he tends to walk around a lot but is never very far away from play when he needs to be
GB at 2016-04-17 21:39:04
There is no doubt that this referee’s style is very calm and composed
GB at 2016-04-17 21:37:22
It never looks good when the referee gets in the way, but “it happens” sometimes. If it happens a lot, then a coach needs to work on the referees positioning
GB at 2016-04-17 21:36:09
Teal Bunbury (NER 10)
Orlando 1 v 1 New England
GB at 2016-04-17 21:33:59
Referee very close to that challenge by Kaká (OC 10) in the centre and just delayed his whistle for a second to see where the ball was going. The top referees often show this skill of “making time” for themselves
GB at 2016-04-17 21:31:23
Correct tactic used by the referee then to go over and ask the player if he required treatment before calling on the trainer. Basic stuff but something an assessor will always pick a referee up on if this is not done.
GB at 2016-04-17 21:29:35
30 minutes gone and as normal, Baldomero is looking comfortable
GB at 2016-04-17 21:27:37
Good to see the referee getting nice and deep and getting a good angle to judge that tackle on the Orlando goal-line
GB at 2016-04-17 21:25:49
there goes the whistle to the mouth and not being blown again. The problem with that is as soon as something happens the players will shout “you were going to blow!” – and suddenly you a re centre of attention and have to defend yourself. Coaching tip is either blow or keep your whistle down
GB at 2016-04-17 21:23:53
Brave advantage played by the referee in a position which most teams would love a free kick just outside of the New England penalty area – that said it was well worth a shout as there was a clear scoring chance from the shot at goal being on.
GB at 2016-04-17 21:22:18
Did you spot the referee putting the whistle up to his mouth in the centre circle then but not blow it?
That is a really bad habit and something I am always telling my referees not to do
GB at 2016-04-17 21:20:51
Note how the referee squeezes the play over towards his assistant on the far side to stay within a credible distance of the players should he need to make a decision
GB at 2016-04-17 21:18:37
First correct off-side goes to Kevin Klinger who picked that one out competently
GB at 2016-04-17 21:17:44
Some of these challenges are getting rather feisty and it is good to see the referee is showing signs of being alert to this with some good early positive whistles
GB at 2016-04-17 21:16:23
The referee did well then to make an early stand on the grappling before the corner was taken
GB at 2016-04-17 21:15:37
That looked very “messy” then by Kermit Quisenberry as he seemed to first miss a hand ball, then give and goalkick and eventually a corner. Not exactly neat and concise flag-work.
GB at 2016-04-17 21:13:57
BT is prepared to stay well ahead of the play in anticipation of the New England team pressing into the Orlando half. Fair play to him for that as he must be confident of his ability to make up the ground for any counter attack
GB at 2016-04-17 21:11:18
Gershon Koffie (NER 7) for unsporting behaviour.
The referee has certainly set his bar rather low with that first yellow card. That will either work by stopping the players fouling each other or could lead to a lot of paper work!
GB at 2016-04-17 21:09:36
The replays showing that the ball clearly crossed the goal-line in that last NE attacking move, so it is just as well nothing came of it
GB at 2016-04-17 21:07:39
Good to KQ on the line following the ball all the way back to the goal-line then
GB at 2016-04-17 21:06:33
Nice work by BT then as he moved in quickly at the first sign of a bit of holding in the penalty area and gave a very positive whistle and free kick to the defence
GB at 2016-04-17 21:05:21
AR1: Kermit Quisenberry (KQ) is patrolling the touchline in front of the technical areas.
GB at 2016-04-17 21:03:47
Deliberate hand ball spotted by BT then and correctly penalised without the need for a yellow card in that position
GB at 2016-04-17 21:02:49
Now we get to see the full extent of the field of play this is a large pitch for our officials to operate on in this heat
GB at 2016-04-17 21:01:02
Kaká (OC 10)
Orlando 1 v 0 New England Revolution
GB at 2016-04-17 20:59:39
The referee had no hesitation to give that for the foul from behind
GB at 2016-04-17 20:58:49
Orando kick off
PENALTY in 15 seconds!
GB at 2016-04-17 20:49:30
Every week, the USA Professional Referees Organisation’s (PRO) Training & Development Manager Paul Rejer, selects an example from each round of fixtures to highlight best practice, or to offer specific educational advice to officials when situations could have been managed better or when application of law was found wanting.
The most recent educational piece concerns the tactic of deliberately standing in an off-side position in order to gain an advantage. The incident which was highlighted last week resulted in a goal being scored against Orlando City which should not have been allowed – Play of the Week 6: Offside tactic – Interfering with an Opponent
During my two visits to the USA CUP in Minneapolis back in 1994 and 2004, I was fascinated as I walked around the campus and saw the Coaches running through elaborate “plays” with the players, which looked more like things I had seen on TV for American Football matches. I thought to myself back then, that as the USA became a genuine player in International Football, we could expect a different approach to how the game could be played from a tactical perspective, which could only be positive and refreshing for the game as a whole. Since then, I have to admit that the influx of “foreign” coaches into the game in North America seems to have resulted in far less of a revolution than I was hoping for. The tactic highlighted in this Week’s Play of the Week appears to be an attempt to circumvent the laws, rather than be genuinely intuitive, as we have seen many examples of in Europe over the past 20 years or so.
If you spot something in tonight’s game which you feel would be worthy of a shout for the Play of the Week this week, contact me on Twitter @youaretheref or email us at Info@you-are-the-ref.com
GB at 2016-04-17 20:42:50
Today’s officials are:
Referee: Baldomero Toledo (BT)
AR1: Kermit Quisenberry (KQ)
AR2: Kevin Klinger (KK)
4th Official: Rubiel Vazquez (RV)
The perennial and reliable FIFA Official Baldomero Toledo takes charge of his 4th MLS game this season. I have watched Baldomero on a number of occasions now for RefCam, and he has so far impressed me with his overall control each time. He might not be the most strikingly agile official on the circuit, but he seems to overcome this by his excellent reading of the game to help keep him within a credible distance of the major incidents.
The vastly experienced Baldomero Toledo is the joint longest serving USA FIFA Referee on the full time PRO Referees list, along with Jair MARRUFO, having both been elevated to the international panel in 2007.
Now in his 13th straight season as an MSL Referee, Baldomero has over 200 games in the top flight in North America under his belt. Last season he finished joint top for the amount of assignments received, and was a consistent high performer in the Group.
This will be the first time this crew have worked together since Week 26 of last season on 26th August, which was also on this ground when Chigargo Fire were the visitors. As well as that occasion, former FIFA Assistant Kermit Quisenberry worked with today’s referee on 4 other regular season MLS games last season.
Here are the referee’s statistics for his MLS regular season games so far this year:
|Games||Fouls awarded||Yellows||Reds||Ave Yellow||Ave Reds|
GB at 2016-04-17 20:38:16
Joe Bendik (OC 1)
Seb Hines (OC 3)
Tyler Turner (OC 2)
Kaká (OC 10)
Carlos Rivas (OC 11)
Kevin Alston (OC 12)
Darwin Cerén (OC 17)
Brek Shea (OC 20)
Antonio Nocerino (OC 22)
Tommy Redding (OC 29)
Adrian Winter (OC 32)
Servando Carrasco (OC 5)
Cyle Larin (OC 9)
Luke Boden (OC 14)
Kevin Molino (OC 18)
Earl Edwards Jr. (OC 36)
David Mateos (OC 44)
Aurélien Collin (OC 78)
New England Revolution
Bobby Shuttleworth (NER 22)
Andrew Farrell (NER 2)
Scott Caldwell (NER 6)
Gershon Koffie (NER 7)
Chris Tierney (NER 8)
Teal Bunbury (NER 10)
Kelyn Rowe (NER 11)
Diego Fagundez (NER 14)
Je-Vaughn Watson (NER 15)
Lee Nguyen (NER 24)
London Woodberry (NER 28)
Charlie Davies (NER 9)
Daigo Kobayashi (NER 16)
Brad Knighton (NER 18)
Zachary Herivaux (NER 21)
Donnie Smith (NER 33)
Sambinha (NER 40)
Femi Hollinger-Janzen (NER 88)
GB at 2016-04-17 20:36:28
Both of these teams have only lost one game each so far as we Kick Off Week 7 of the season.
Orlando have scored more goals than any other team in the EC so far with an unbeaten home record and are sitting nicely in 3rd spot, just ahead of today’s visitors.
History does not tell much about what to expect from this one as the Teams have only crossed swords on two previous occasion during Orlando’s first season in the MLS last year. New England walked away with most of the spoils last season winning 3-0 at Home and grinding out a 2-2 Tie on the road.
Eastern Conference Table
|3||Orlando City SC||5||2||1||2||8|
|4||New England Revolution||6||1||1||4||7|
|5||New York City FC||5||1||1||3||6|
|9||New York Red Bulls||6||1||5||0||3|
|10||Columbus Crew SC||5||0||3||2||2|
Current Form This season
|Orlando City SC||–||D||D||W||W||L|
|New England Revolution||D||D||L||D||W||D|
More than 40,000 supporters are expected today for this one.
GB at 2016-04-17 20:34:08
Welcome to this RefCam coverage of the MLS game between Orlando and New England Revolution from, the Citrus Bowl in sunny Florida!
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