Newcastle United v Southampton
Commentary By: Guy Beale
FINAL SCORE: 1 - 2
GB at 2015-01-17 20:39:32
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GB at 2015-01-17 20:39:02
What a pity about that hand ball in the time added on. Maybe I put the voodoo on Robert Madley as I have been keeping on all night about the need to stay focussed for when the big decision comes along in a game where the referee has had little to do.
Until that missed penalty decision came along in added time I did not expect to see Robert’s name in any of the reports of this game tomorrow, but now I expect this to be a big talking point. The result may have gone to form, but it could have been different.
Not the most exciting game ever witnessed, but as an official you can only deal with what is put in front of you and now with the luxury of looking back at the whole picture, my comments about the isolated incident in the first half when I felt Robert could have issued a caution for a reckless challenge from behind may have been a little harsh. Robert generally managed the game well and displayed creditable fitness and positioning and really let the game flow. He did not need to stop the game very often – so he didn’t.
But, and of course it is a BIG BUT AGAIN, when the big one came along it went begging. I thought Robert was well placed to see the raised arm and I have certainly seen penalties given for raised arms like that and maybe the referee’s view of the actual contact was obscured by the player’s body? For me the Southampton player was guilty of deliberate hand ball and a penalty should have been given. So if I may repeat a line from one of Rob Harris’s Ref Cams earlier in the season – sorry Robert Madley, “close but no cigar”.
A final comment on the teamwork between the officials, on the whole this was very good with the assistants clearly tuned into the way the referee was prepared to let the game flow.
GB at 2015-01-17 20:23:05
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GB at 2015-01-17 20:21:42
GB at 2015-01-17 20:20:42
Shane Long (S 7) – took one for the team there
GB at 2015-01-17 20:19:33
Replays show that should have been a penalty. I know it was blasted at him, but his arm was up there
GB at 2015-01-17 20:18:37
Here is the big one
GB at 2015-01-17 20:17:32
minimum of 4 minutes added time
GB at 2015-01-17 20:17:15
Once again, good refereeing by RM there in not over-reacting and issuing a caution there. That would have been inconstant with the rest of the game
GB at 2015-01-17 20:15:59
RM using his whistle and body language well there to hurry Southampton along to re-start play
GB at 2015-01-17 20:15:02
No foul for me there . RW on same wavelength as RM and not looking for trouble
GB at 2015-01-17 20:13:22
Has this game got one more goal in it I wonder?
GB at 2015-01-17 20:10:48
Close up on RM there – he looks full of confidence!
GB at 2015-01-17 20:10:21
Quick look at the watch there by RM – he will be telling himself now to dig really deep into his experience not to let all the good work he has done in this game so far be wasted by a poor decision never to the end.
GB at 2015-01-17 20:09:02
Rm moving into the position of the free kick there to let everyone know he is still in charge
GB at 2015-01-17 20:06:19
RW getting in on the act there with a correct signal for a foul right in front of him, but RM once again always looking to keep the game moving if he can
GB at 2015-01-17 20:02:49
Good eye contact between the officials again there as the ball goes out of play on the half-way line
GB at 2015-01-17 20:01:17
Great to see RM stepping in to manage the grappling before the corner. Exactly the type of refereeing I have been talking about in raising his profile in a quiet game when he needs to.
Reading the game and being pro-active is what good performances are based on.
GB at 2015-01-17 19:59:09
RM has played more advantages in this game than in any other I have seen so far this season. To be fair though, if you can’t play advantage in a game like this then you never will
GB at 2015-01-17 19:57:23
RM will need to be aware of any time wasting tactic by Southampton from now on. He needs to make everyone know that he will not tolerate it
GB at 2015-01-17 19:55:10
Concentration, Concentration, Concentration all the way to the end now
GB at 2015-01-17 19:54:25
I do really think RM has done well to let this game flow and not to get too involved when the players just want to get on with the play, but I so want this to come to a satisfactory conclusion for the officials I am just getting nervous that when the big ones comes along they may not be ready for it if they relax because of the way things have gone so far
GB at 2015-01-17 19:50:53
Steven Davis (S 8) following an advantage. Caution was certainly valid but once again is RM in danger of trying to be too clever in the centre of the field of play – just give the free kick there?
GB at 2015-01-17 19:48:05
Eljero Elia (S 22) 1 – 2
GB at 2015-01-17 19:46:31
The officials need to be mindful now of how a change in tactics following a double substitution could change the temperature of the game.
GB at 2015-01-17 19:44:59
Thanks for that heads up on Twitter Alan about the general lack of controversy so far today in respect to refereeing performances. Lets hope RM can keep up the good work. So far so good.
GB at 2015-01-17 19:42:35
10 minutes gone in the second half and just one stoppage so far. The longer this cat and mouse softly softly stuff goes on the more important it will be for RM to react positively when the next crunching tackle goes in and not let it get lost in the noise in an effort to keep the game following.
GB at 2015-01-17 19:39:53
I do like the way RM runs at an angle to the play when he needs to and does not stare right at the play from directly behind the players
GB at 2015-01-17 19:36:15
Looks like I was reading from the wrong script as I did my half time summary as the second half starts as quiet as the first after all!
RM still needs to stay on his toes though
GB at 2015-01-17 19:34:02
RM well placed again to see that challenge from behind.
GB at 2015-01-17 19:31:34
For those of you who have just joined us for the second half, today’s officials are:
Referee: Robert Madley (RM)
AR1: Richard West (RW)
AR2: Simon Long (SL)
4th Official: Anthony Taylor (AT)
GB at 2015-01-17 19:31:15
Thanks for the clip of the Spurs game on Twitter Morten. I can’t believe that was disallowed. What on earth for?
GB at 2015-01-17 19:26:24
Keith Hackett’s blogs this week contain plenty of food for thought again, including his prophesy on how Mike Riley’s “promotion” to the Board of Directors of the Premier League, which was announced on Monday, could be a blessing in disguise for the fortunes of refereeing standards at the elite level. There is also an excellent piece prepared by ex-Premier League Referee Rob Harris, who raises the issue very close to my heart down here in the West Country, of why is there such a dearth of officials at the highest level from the South of England. You can catch-up on all the blogs at http://you-are-the-ref.com/author/keith-hackett/
GB at 2015-01-17 19:25:56
I wish to start my half-time summary by stating that I feel the Robert Madley is generally do all right so far, but there is a long way to go until the fat lady sings in this one.
With such a quiet game for the first 35 minutes, I just have a nagging feeling that Robert failed to stamp his authority on the game when the first reckless challenge came along. If he had made a big thing of talking to the culprit and that would not have been so bad, but it seemed like he saw no evil when there was some. Anyone can look good as a referee when you have no decisions to make, but the skill comes when you recognise when you need to raise your profile.
Was it over confidence in not giving a yellow card for challenge from behind? I hope not.
The discussion in the dressing room now needs to be all about “right lads – the second half is a whole new game”. Forget what went on before and lets all get stuck in right from the off now.
Robert has made some positive energetic runs and adjusts his position well as the play gets close to the penalty area, I just hope he realises that he might need to up his game now as the first 20 minutes of the second half are not going to be so quiet as the first 20 minutes of the first half.
So far the teamwork has been good between all the officials.
This is a game which only Robert can lose if he does not stay focussed.
GB at 2015-01-17 19:16:30
GB at 2015-01-17 19:16:21
RM did well not to be duped that time by the Southampton player’s claim for a foul
GB at 2015-01-17 19:15:29
minimum of one minute added time
GB at 2015-01-17 19:14:12
I will give SL the benefit of the doubt there based on the player’s reactions.
GB at 2015-01-17 19:13:22
I think that half time is coming at a good game for the officials so that they can re-group and talk about staying focussed. I just feel that RM may be trying too hard to keep the game flowing now
GB at 2015-01-17 19:09:46
Good tackle there – no penalty. RM well placed again when the big decision needed to be made
GB at 2015-01-17 19:08:44
I think RM needs to be very careful. He seems to be over confident now as he lets another challenge from behind go by
GB at 2015-01-17 19:07:02
RM in a good close position there to play the advantage in the centre of the field of play
GB at 2015-01-17 19:05:27
Now we are seeing the difference that the second goal has made. Looks like we might have a game on.
GB at 2015-01-17 19:04:02
We now have two missed cautions – RM can’t caution the kicking the ball away (although he should) because he loses his credibility if a challenge from behind goes unpunished then the first caution is for a technical offence
GB at 2015-01-17 19:02:40
A challenge from behind and right in front of the technical area. RM has now set his tolerance level
GB at 2015-01-17 19:01:39
here we go. That should really be a caution
GB at 2015-01-17 19:00:39
Straight away the tempo goes up and RM gives what is a rare foul in this game
GB at 2015-01-17 19:00:03
That could put a bit of life into the game
GB at 2015-01-17 18:59:40
Yoan Gouffran (NU 11)
They all count!
GB at 2015-01-17 18:58:07
stop his “run”
GB at 2015-01-17 18:57:45
RW seemed to stop his fun in following the ball back to the goalkeeper a bit early then – not good practice
GB at 2015-01-17 18:56:41
There is a long way to go yet I know, but so far the officials are doing well to keep their low profile which the game requires
GB at 2015-01-17 18:55:29
SL gets his first off-side – another routine decision
GB at 2015-01-17 18:54:47
We don’t need coloured spray yet tonight! In fact we did not see it at all. I am pleased when it is only used when required and not as a gimmick.
GB at 2015-01-17 18:53:22
In a game like this with very little happening for the officials to get involved in they must try to shine with the basics like their signals. So far I have to say they are all doing just that
GB at 2015-01-17 18:50:56
RM always manages the position of throw-ins well by standing adjacent to the position for the re-start and talking to the thrower
GB at 2015-01-17 18:48:52
nice little backwards run there by RM as play moved out of the penalty area.
It is impossible to always do it these days because of the pace at which the ball is often put back into play, however, it is very important to know “when it must be done” and then to employ this tactic when you are required to keep your eyes on the ball at al times.
GB at 2015-01-17 18:47:10
1st foul after 15 minutes
GB at 2015-01-17 18:46:42
I felt RM did well in the build up to that goal as he let a little push on the Southampton player go un-punished, even though he did not signal advantage, he was constant with the minor nudges which he has let go so far
GB at 2015-01-17 18:44:42
Eljero Elia (S 22) 0 – 1
First shot by Southampton
GB at 2015-01-17 18:43:07
RM is moving really well so far and looks very comfortable – still not a single foul given
GB at 2015-01-17 18:42:19
RM did well there as he adjusted his position as the play entered the penalty area
GB at 2015-01-17 18:41:06
great holding of the flag there by SL – player coming back from off-side position did not get involved in active play. Good to see assistants on same page as referee and not looking to stop the game unnecessarily
GB at 2015-01-17 18:38:32
RM giving this game every chance to flow – good advantage there
GB at 2015-01-17 18:37:25
7 minutes gone and no fouls – this could be a very open game
GB at 2015-01-17 18:36:14
RW gets his first decision out of the way with a routine off side
GB at 2015-01-17 18:35:44
Newcastle already showing Southampton that they are not going to have all their own way tonight
GB at 2015-01-17 18:34:23
Its all about eye contact near the halfway line – particularly in front of the technical areas. You don’t want to get them wrong there
GB at 2015-01-17 18:33:23
Good teamwork then with a lead for the throw-in direction near the halfway line from RM
GB at 2015-01-17 18:32:04
Good early sprint there from RM
GB at 2015-01-17 18:31:08
Richard West (RW) is patrolling the touchline in front of the technical areas.
GB at 2015-01-17 18:30:14
Newcastle United won the toss so it will be Southampton to kick off.
Good luck to all the officials and may the ball run kindly for you!
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GB at 2015-01-17 18:27:35
Newcastle line-up 4-2-3-1 and Southampton line-up 4-2-3-1
GB at 2015-01-17 18:25:44
Not long to go now as the players and officials leave the tunnel
GB at 2015-01-17 18:23:39
GB at 2015-01-17 18:22:07
Richard West was promoted to the Premier League Line in 2008. Since then he has officiate at over 100 top flight matches in this country as well as 18 international fixtures in different competitions, but has yet to be selected for the full FIFA Badge.
Simon Long was promoted to the Premier League Line in 2009 and was appointed to the FIFA List of Assistant Referees in 2011. He would have had to set off pretty early for this game in order to make the longest journey possible for any of the current officials of 450 miles one way from Cornwall, so I trust he will have got over the jet lag by the time the game Kicks Off!
With all this experience on the line, there should be no excuses for any poor teamwork to be displayed tonight.
GB at 2015-01-17 18:19:14
Today’s officials are:
Referee: Robert Madley (RM)
AR1: Richard West (RW)
AR2: Simon Long (SL)
4th Official: Anthony Taylor (AT)
Robert joined the Premier League list of referees in 2013 and refereed 5 games in his first season. This will be his 6th game of this campaign and so far he has issued 19 yellow cards and has yet to administer the ultimate sanction.
This will be the 3rd time that Robert has been the subject of the Ref Cam, which means in its self that he has been selected for at least 3 live TV games so far this season. The last time I saw him referee I was impressed by the way he used his personality and communication skills to build a rapport with the players in the game between Swansea and Spurs in December. As one of the more recent additions to the Select Group, Robert needs to continue to consolidate his position with a run of consistent performances with no controversies whilst he is in the TV limelight like this evening.
GB at 2015-01-17 18:16:54
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GB at 2015-01-17 18:14:25
Message just in on Twitter from Morten – “Oh dear, did you see that absolute horrible error for disallowed goal at #Spurs” – Not seen it yet Morten – what happened?
GB at 2015-01-17 18:13:06
Looking back at the history of the matches between these two teams at the opposite ends of the country, I was not at all surprised to find that geography has had a lot to do with the results since the first time they met back in 1897. Since that first meeting, Newcastle United have won 28 of the 38 encounters on their own cabbage patch, with 8 draws. Whilst back on the South Coast, Southampton have won 24 of the 39 encounters, with 11 draws. Taking all League games into consideration both home and away, the statistics come out as 32 to 28 wins in Newcastle’s favour with 17 draws in all the League games between the two teams.
The last meeting of these two teams was a very one-sided affair at the Saint Mary’s Stadium last September when Southampton came out worthy winners 4 – 0. This game was a quiet game for the referee Chris Foy and was played at the height of the backlash by a number of fans towards Alan Pardew, prior to him turning round Newcastle’s form, before recently jumping ship of his own accord – he had another good day today as Crystal Palace manager.
GB at 2015-01-17 18:09:31
20 minutes to go before KO and welcome to this evenings live Ref Cam coverage of the game between Newcastle United and Southampton. Feel free to interact with me during the game by joining in on Twitter @youaretheref or e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.org
Southampton’s victory at Old Trafford last week did a lot to silence some of the pundits who questioned their ability to keep up their early form, as they compete with the top teams. That result will have certainly buoyed them up for one of their longest journeys of the season up to the North East today, but it will be interesting to see how much that FA Cup tie against Ipswich in mid-week has taken out of their legs.
Newcastle on the other had are settling in under new management and will be looking to drastically improve their recent form having won just one in their last 6 matches. That said, they will fancy their chances at home today in front of one of the most passionate home supporters in the League at St James’ Park, where they have lost only two of their home matches this season.