Nothing the referee can do about that I am afraid!
Manchester City v Liverpool
Commentary By: Guy Beale
FINAL SCORE: 1 - 4
GB at 2015-11-21 20:40:24
It gives me pleasure to be able to say well done to our referee tonight. This game was never about the officials from the opening few minutes of the first half when the stage was set for the two teams (one in particular), to be allowed to just go about their business and entertain the public with the minimum of intervention from the officials. Sometimes this reflects a “quiet” game, but both teams kept up the momentum in this one, and the officials were all up-for-it.
The final foul count of 18 in the game does not reflect that there were only two stoppages in the first 39 minutes! That’s the way they wanted to play the game and Jon Moss did well to keep out of it and play as many advantages as he could. With the exception of the one when he really took the biscuit by allowing the play to continue far to long before coming back to the original offence, advantage was a very positive part of his performance.
It almost felt to me as if Jonathan Moss came out tonight as if he had something to prove? May be there has been more to it that this is his first Premier League game for a month? Whatever, he certainly shut this critic up tonight! As I said at half time there was something very different about the way Jon Moss was moving around in this game and getting in the best positions from where to make his decisions – as a result, he got his decision right. He also kept up this much better movement right to the end.
The referee was ably supported by two competent assistants tonight who did very well themselves on a number of occasions to ensure that nobody will be talking about any of the officials when this game is recounted.
All-in-all, it was Job Done all round!
So I must say well done Jonathan Moss for that one – this is clearly the standard you need to maintain and consistently display from now on.
GB at 2015-11-21 20:22:30
My final summary will follow very shortly.
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Sunday 22nd November
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GB at 2015-11-21 20:21:49
Manchester City 1 v 4 Liverpool
GB at 2015-11-21 20:20:21
that said – I have worked with a lot of officials who would not have risked messing up a good performance by playing so much added time!
GB at 2015-11-21 20:19:18
good to see the referee being professional and correct until the end and not just playing a couple of added minutes of added time
GB at 2015-11-21 20:18:03
minimum of 4 added minutes wont go down well with the City
GB at 2015-11-21 20:17:02
as if on cue – Jon Moss could be seen steaming through the centre of the field of play again then just to prove that he has kept his fitness level up for a change in this game! Credit where it is due tonight!
GB at 2015-11-21 20:14:52
just the type of free kicks the referee wants to be giving here as we are in the last 5 minutes – safe and obvious – no need to try to be too clever at this stage
GB at 2015-11-21 20:11:30
good teamworked displayed again there as the officials waited to be sure which way to give that throw-in near the half way line then JM cracked out his arm with confidence – that’s what we mean by the the referee displaying his presence
GB at 2015-11-21 20:08:54
Martin Skrte? (L 37)
Manchester City 1 v 4 Liverpool
GB at 2015-11-21 20:07:52
nothing “fancy” required from the officials now – just more of the same right to the end.
Another great “not off-side” call by Simon Bennett
GB at 2015-11-21 20:05:11
JM storming through the middle again in that last attack, just as I was about to write that I will be looking closely to see if he mainstays his stamina to the end
GB at 2015-11-21 20:02:02
The law is very clear on advantage and states:
“The decision to penalise the original offence must be taken within a few seconds”
GB at 2015-11-21 20:01:03
thats more like it JM – free kick quickly given when advantage not accrued!
GB at 2015-11-21 19:59:21
again, the respect the players have for each other is shown there following that careless challenge
GB at 2015-11-21 19:57:41
that tackle from behind by Raheem Sterling (MC 7) which took the ball cleanly was a good example of how this game has been played and a good example of how the referee has not felt pressured into giving free kicks for those challenges today
GB at 2015-11-21 19:55:03
just over 20 minutes to go now and the officials have so far been consistent and accurate with their decision making and need to really dig in now and concentrate right to the end to reap their rewards from this performance so far
GB at 2015-11-21 19:52:30
I know I must seem like a stuck record tonight but the way the referee moved out to keep pace with the play as it switched following that City attempt on goal was very good indeed. He was right up with the play when the next challenge went in on the half way line.
GB at 2015-11-21 19:50:17
Simon Bennett joining the party now with another top quality off-side decision in a goal scoring situation
GB at 2015-11-21 19:48:59
He is even going in and being pro-active with the rappelling – it is almost as if someone has shaken this referee up today!
GB at 2015-11-21 19:47:45
once again Jon Moss could be seen really sprinting across the field of play at an angle as the last Liverpool attack developed
GB at 2015-11-21 19:45:40
great turn of pace displayed again then by Eddie on the far touchline
GB at 2015-11-21 19:44:51
GB at 2015-11-21 19:40:29
This is the first time the referee has become centre of attention with that very long delay in bringing that advantage back which the referee consider red did not work out.
I suggest the referee needs to be careful with that type of decision – he may be having a good game so far but if he tries to be too clever like he was then, it could all very quickly go pear shaped
GB at 2015-11-21 19:38:00
Good to see JM continuing how he finished the first half and moving out to the edges smartly as the ball moves out there rather than remaining static in the centre of the field of play
GB at 2015-11-21 19:36:36
A challenge from behind like the last yellow card cannot be allowed to go unpunished otherwise it sends out all the wrong signals to the players
GB at 2015-11-21 19:35:24
Thats what I would call a “safe” decision with that for Emre Can (L 23)
Replays may lead to the pundits to argue it was not worthy, but referees are always going to do that to manage the tempo of the game!
GB at 2015-11-21 19:32:14
Manchester City get the the second half underway
GB at 2015-11-21 19:28:44
Without wishing to put the “mockers on” the referee, this is the best performance I have seen from him so far in a couple of seasons!
The main difference has clearly been his movement in this game. I have been as guilty as anyone to criticise Johnathon Moss for his fitness in the past (and it has to be said that we are still only half way through this game so far), but he really seems to be putting the effort in tonight. I may have just detected the slightest of signs that he was starting to feel it at the end of that first half, but until then he had proved to me in this game that he can inject the necessary pace and intelligent angles required at this level.
Top performances have to be based on good positioning and movement, and this has allowed the referee to keep the game moving with the very minimum of stoppages as he has been in the positions to make the judgements which have allowed him to gain the player’s confidence. Along with this has come an empathy which has really added to an entertaining game.
The whole official’s team are really working as a unit at the moment with Eddie Smart standing out for me. If I was him I would be stopping to buy a lottery ticket on the way home! So far his off-side decisions have been faultless – two of which could easily have chalked off perfectly good goals if he was not on such top form in this game so far.
Simon Bennett has also put in a decent shift so far, although to be fair he has had very little involvement.
Keep it up lads and in particular Mr Moss, lets see if you have the stamina to keep up your first half pace right to the end?!
GB at 2015-11-21 19:20:11
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GB at 2015-11-21 19:16:34
it is good to see that the grappling has not continued at corners
GB at 2015-11-21 19:15:32
minimum of 2 added minutes
GB at 2015-11-21 19:14:26
Sergio Agüero (MC 10)
Manchester City 1 – 3 Liverpool
GB at 2015-11-21 19:13:31
Once again JM is displaying an empathy with how this game is being played and read that last challenge well as it looked far worse than it was
GB at 2015-11-21 19:10:40
Lucas Leiva (L 21)
A mandatory caution
A caution for unsporting behaviour must be issued when a player holds an opponent to prevent him gaining possession of the ball or taking up an advantageous position
GB at 2015-11-21 19:08:28
@youaretheref Eddie Smart My thoughts precisely!
GB at 2015-11-21 19:06:43
replays just confirming that in fact the ball did not his the Liverpool player on the arm just before the 3rd Liverpool goal – not that there was any question of it being a deliberate act even if it had
GB at 2015-11-21 19:04:44
The tempo of the game just started to rise before that 3rd Liverpool goal
GB at 2015-11-21 19:03:54
Roberto Firmino (L 11)
Manchester City 0 – 3 Liverpool
Assistant Eddie Smart is ON FIRE tonight! Another excellent decision as the goal scorer was not closer to the goal-line than the ball when it was passed to him – TOP LINING
GB at 2015-11-21 19:01:30
First big call of the game and the ball clearly seemed to hit the player on the arm whilst he was on the ground in the Liverpool penalty area – but was it a deliberate act?
GB at 2015-11-21 19:00:20
just the second free kick in the game!
GB at 2015-11-21 18:59:50
I would have liked to have seen JM moving out towards the edge of the penalty area during that Man City attack so he could judge fouls inside or outside of the penalty area
GB at 2015-11-21 18:58:35
There was an interesting decision out on the wing then when the Liverpool player wanted a free kick for high feet – traditionally English referees very rarely give them “at home”, but are very quick to give them when on international duty. With so many foreign players in the EPL now, I am often surprised that this stays the same
GB at 2015-11-21 18:57:04
There was an interesting decision out on the wing then when the Liverpool player wanted a free kick for high feet – traditionally English referees irately give them “at home”, but are very quick to give them when on international duty. With so many foreign players in the EPL now, I am often surprised that this stays the same
GB at 2015-11-21 18:54:41
Philippe Coutinho (L 10)
Manchester City 0 – 2 Liverpool
Another great decision by Eddie Smart to keep his flag down as the player was just on-side as the ball was played through to him
GB at 2015-11-21 18:52:06
JM seen communicating with the player who though he was fouled then. It is important to know when to ignore the players and when to respond to them, I think he did the right thing that time
GB at 2015-11-21 18:50:21
once again the referee is showing a good turn of pace and intelligent movement to keep the optimum angle to judge challenges – something is diferent about him so far tonight.
First free kick in the 19th minute!
GB at 2015-11-21 18:48:18
Eddie Smart did really well that time by giving himself a split seconds to think before he raised his flag for that excellent off-side decision – well done!
GB at 2015-11-21 18:46:27
And another advantage – the referee’s confidence must be sky high at the moment and none of these occasions when he has allowed the play to continue have been disputed by the players – everyone is enjoying the pace of the game so far
GB at 2015-11-21 18:44:29
coming up to 15 minutes and still no free kicks given – another good advantage played
GB at 2015-11-21 18:42:33
To be fair to Jon Moss he really has started this one sharp and is moving a lot better than I have seen him in the past
GB at 2015-11-21 18:40:44
JM was in a great position to judge that was not a penalty to Man City, but it was a very clumsy challenge which gave the referee a decision to make
GB at 2015-11-21 18:39:35
The refereeing team are looking very joined up in the opening 10 minutes of this game
GB at 2015-11-21 18:38:43
OG – Eliaquim Mangala (MC 20)
Liverpool 1 – 0 Man City
Jon Moss will feel happy with that goal as he played an important advantage in the build up – thankfully he did not punch the air though!
GB at 2015-11-21 18:37:00
ES will be happy to be off the mark with a straight forward off-side decision in the bag as well
GB at 2015-11-21 18:35:51
5 minutes gone and so far so good as the referee is letting the game breath already
GB at 2015-11-21 18:34:56
I hope that grappling at the first corner does not set the scene for this game – JM was looking straight at it
SB will be pleased to get his first standard off-side flag out of the way
GB at 2015-11-21 18:33:31
It is often nice to get a good “safe” free kick given early, but if you can let them play it also sets up the game nicely for the referee and gains the player’s respect
GB at 2015-11-21 18:32:12
JM did well then in the centre not to jump in too early with a free kick but let the Man City player continue with the ball
GB at 2015-11-21 18:30:39
AR1: Simon Bennett (SB) is patrolling the touchline in front of the technical areas.
GB at 2015-11-21 18:30:08
Manchester City l won the toss so it will be Liverpool to kick off.
Good luck to all the officials and may the ball run kindly for you!
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GB at 2015-11-21 18:24:15
Not long to go now as the players and officials prepare to leave the tunnel
GB at 2015-11-21 18:21:51
Last season’s FA Cup final referee takes charge of his 9th game in the Premier League this time around and finds himself in the spotlight of the Live TV cameras, for what could be the biggest fixture of the day. Jonathon is no stranger to the big occasion of course, but there will be nowhere to hide this evening if he fails to stay in touch with this one, so I hope he has been putting some extra training in over the international break last weekend. This will be Johnathon’s first game in the top flight for almost a month, although he was out in the Championship at Wolves 2 weeks ago.
He has a respectable average of just 3.25 (26) yellow cards from his 8 appearances so far, but tops the red card league table with 4 sending offs this season. No one wants to see the ultimate sanction employed unless it’s really necessary and as I have a feeling that both teams will be really up for this one, todays referee will need to be right on the money and get a firm hold on the proceedings and assert his authority from the start if he wants to come through without becoming the centre of attention today.
Both Assistant Referees, Simon Bennett (who has been on the FIFA list since 2013) and Eddie Smart have both worked with Mr Moss already this season. This will be Eddie’s 11th top flight game this season, with Simon a long way behind having only completed 4 EPL games in this campaign so far.
Kevin Friend makes up the crew by taking on his almost customary board holding duties for the 8th time again this season.
GB at 2015-11-21 18:21:20
Today’s officials are:
Referee: Jonathan Moss (JM)
AR1: Simon Bennett (SB)
AR2: Eddie Smart (ES)
4th Official: Kevin Friend (KF)
GB at 2015-11-21 18:19:53
Here are the starting line-ups for this game:
Joe Hart (MC 1)
Bacary Sagna (MC 3)
Fernando (MC 6)
Raheem Sterling (MC 7)
Sergio Agüero (MC 10)
Aleksandar Kolarov (MC 11)
Jesús Navas (MC 15)
Kevin De Bruyne (MC 17)
Eliaquim Mangala (MC 20)
Martin Demichelis (MC 26)
Yaya Touré (MC 42)
Pablo Zabaleta (MC 5)
Wilfredo Caballero (MC 13)
Fabian Delph (MC 18)
Gaël Clichy (MC 22)
Fernandinho (MC 25)
Nicolas Otamendi (MC 30)
Kelechi Iheanacho (MC 72)
Simon Mignolet (L 22)
Nathaniel Clyne (L 2)
Dejan Lovren (L 6)
James Milner (L 7)
Philippe Coutinho (L 10)
Roberto Firmino (L 11)
Alberto Moreno (L 18)
Adam Lallana (L 20)
Lucas Leiva (L 21)
Emre Can (L 23)
Martin Škrte? (L 37)
Kolo Touré (L 4)
Christian Benteke (L 9)
Daniel Sturridge (L 15)
Joe Allen (L 24)
Jordon Ibe (L 33)
Ádám Bogdán L 34)
Connor Randall (L 56)
GB at 2015-11-21 18:18:02
This has become one of the most exciting clashes in the Premier League in recent seasons and really doesn’t require much of a sales pitch!
Two big clubs go head-to-head as Jurgen Klopp’s Liverpool spell rolls on with another huge test. Plenty of stars will be on display in a game neither side can really afford to lose as they attempt to consolidate their respective campaigns.
Manchester City started the day proudly on the top of the pile with a tally of 26 points from their 12 games ahead of second-placed Arsenal on goal difference. They now need to win this one to reclaim their spot. Having been unbeaten in their last five Premier League outings they will, of course, be favourites today thanks to their superior league status and home field advantage – but both sides will be as wary of failure here as the other.
Despite Liverpool’s change of form recently, they are onlt just starting to show consistent green shoots following their terrible start to the season under Brendan Rogers. The Reds have shown considerable improvement under the guidance of their new manager, although it is still too early for the Liverpool players to have completely adapted to the German’s football philosophy. Klopp has already overseen seven matches with the Reds and has suffered only one defeat thus far – in his last Premier League encounter against Alan Pardew’s Crystal Palace at Anfield. He will obviously still be looking for improvement from his squad today though, regardless of whether they are quite ready to match the quality of Manchester City. That said, City have been winning, but they have also had trouble keeping a clean sheet lately, so it will be up to the likes of Daniel Sturridge and Christian Benteke to throw the gauntlet down at the Etihad Stadium in this one.
This game has plenty of stars and should be an exciting game for football fans all around the world, so I for one hope that the referee is able to just take a back seat and orchestrate the proceedings from a distance.
GB at 2015-11-21 18:17:10
Welcome to this early evening’s RefCam coverage today of the premier League game between Manchester City and Liverpool.
Thanks to Glenn Turner for keeping the seat warm at lunch time for a fascinating satistactory performance from Robert Madley, in which he continued with his consistent style this season of ducking and diving when the yellow card events come along, until his back id right against the wall – what did you think?
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