Manchester City v Everton


GB at 2014-12-06 20:31:17

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GB at 2014-12-06 20:30:14

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GB at 2014-12-06 20:29:25

The press and the general football supporters will probably be concentrating on whether it should have been a penalty or not in the first half (I know I don’t think it was a penalty), but I am sure all the referees out there will be discussing the two yellow cards for Manchester City in the first half.

I think it comes down to basic law – is it a foul when someone jabs their studs into someone’s back? Is it a foul when someone kicks someone in the face?

So if we are agreed that they were both fouls – we just need to agree if we think studs in the back and a boot in the face is a “serious” foul – ERGO: Serious Foul Play = Red Card Offence.

Then in the second half we have an arm in the face and not even a yellow card is issued.

For me this performance was littered with inconsistencies and one which Andre will not look back on with pride. I have a feeling that the Ref Show may well have a bit to say about this one.

Technically I felt Andre did well. He was up with play and varied his runs effectively through the centre of the field of play and always looked in control of the proceedings, but all that is insignificant if you don’t get the big calls right. You can be the fittest referee out there and as cool as a cucumber, but if you don’t adjust your position right at the end to get the best angle you end up giving poor decisions.

Quiet day for both assistants in respect to off-side decisions and for me there was just one foul which I thing Mike should have helped Andre out with.

GB at 2014-12-06 20:25:02

Full Time

GB at 2014-12-06 20:24:52

extend time for a corner?

GB at 2014-12-06 20:22:19

well into 5 minutes of added time now

GB at 2014-12-06 20:20:47

OK – I give in .. I don’t know what Ross Barkley (EV 20) was given a Yellow Card for

GB at 2014-12-06 20:19:05

“You know what for” was what AM said to Yaya Touré (MC 42) then when he gave him Yellow Card. It was for the fould which AM played advantage on. Still think he should have called the play back

GB at 2014-12-06 20:16:42

Advantage played there by AM – but was that one which could have been called back?

GB at 2014-12-06 20:15:17

This has not really been a classic encounter by any means. All the officials need to dig deep now at get to the end without any more incidents in which their involvement or lack of it is questioned

GB at 2014-12-06 20:11:50

AM still has plenty in the tank as the play switched from one end to the other

GB at 2014-12-06 20:10:58

Fantastic save

GB at 2014-12-06 20:09:43

10 minutes to go and I would not be surprised if this game has one more talking point before the final whistle

GB at 2014-12-06 20:04:26

Not sure if MM had a good view of that but I am disappointed that he did not assist the referee then with the foul on the edge of the Penalty Area

GB at 2014-12-06 20:02:19

First time I have seen that this season – I wonder if there was a blockage or his spray had run out. Not used it much today

GB at 2014-12-06 20:01:21

Deflected – or wasted?

GB at 2014-12-06 20:00:56

What DID we do before the spray?

GB at 2014-12-06 20:00:34

Great chance for Everton to get something out of this free kick

GB at 2014-12-06 19:57:01

When we hear managers asking for consistency, they often refer to decisions in other games which may or may not even have involved their team. I am afraid it would be impossible to achieve consistency across the board from every referee unless we sent robots out there (which some people though was actually being attempted a few years ago). But what everyone is entitled to, and certainly what every referee should be striving for, is consistency throughout the full 90 minutes of each game. Sadly, there was an example where a yellow card was issued for holding in the first half but was not issued for the same offence in the second half

GB at 2014-12-06 19:55:01

AM has used his fitness well today, it has just been that final adjustment of position which has let him down occassionally

GB at 2014-12-06 19:53:21

I know I keep going on about it but I wish more referees would follow AM’s lead and get inside the Penalty Area more like he has done in this game

GB at 2014-12-06 19:51:40

You need to get those decision correct right in front of the technical areas

GB at 2014-12-06 19:46:29

Now lets see what difference the first Everton substitution will make and if AM needs to adapt and react to a change in tactics from the away side

GB at 2014-12-06 19:44:59

Manchester City look a different team without Sergio Agüero (MC 16) up front

GB at 2014-12-06 19:43:12

Quiet word from AM there after the ball was kicked away in frustration

GB at 2014-12-06 19:42:01

I should have said “reckless” of course :(

GB at 2014-12-06 19:41:22

Yellow CardGareth Barry (EV 18) VERY careless challenge got what it deserved

GB at 2014-12-06 19:40:46

So many inexperienced referees see the edge of the Penalty Area as a barrier

GB at 2014-12-06 19:39:52

Great chance for City. Notice AM pressing into the Penalty Area again.

GB at 2014-12-06 19:37:33

That looked a bit indecisive to me. AM needs to be quicker with his decisions and not wait for the shout or appeal

GB at 2014-12-06 19:35:58

This is when the referee must show his character and not reflect on anything which went on in the first half. Dig in and grind it out!

GB at 2014-12-06 19:34:45

We are off again

GB at 2014-12-06 19:34:29

For those of you who have just joined us for the second half, todays officials are:

Referee: Andre Mariner (AM)

AR1: Mike Mullarkey (MM)

AR2: Stephen Childs (SC)

4th Official: Mark Clattenburg (MC)

GB at 2014-12-06 19:32:28

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GB at 2014-12-06 19:32:07

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GB at 2014-12-06 19:31:17

Unfortunately this has not been a particularly good day at the office for Andre so far in this game. The soft penalty and for me two yellow cards which looked more like red card offences to me has left him  playing “catch up” in his efforts to gain the respect of the players.


In his regular weekly blog for You Are The Ref, Keith Hackett’s expressed his concerns about the amount of poor decisions we have been subjected to in our Premier Competition this season and once again all the talk will be about some major decisions which have effected the game.


I thought that all was going well for the first 20 minutes or so, but in refereeing circles we often talk about “something to hang it on” when things go down hill. For me it was the studs in the back foul by Eliaquim Mangala (MC 20) which only resulted in a yellow card. The offence for me has shades of the similar challenge faced by Howard Webb in his World Cup Final – and we all know that had Howard had a different view of that one he would have issued a red card. I am sure there will be an interesting conversation between the two of them next week.


AM has moved around well and looked calm and in control, but its all very well looking the part, but you have to get the big decisions right.



Was it over confidence? Was it lack of concentration?


Whatever, I just felt Andre went off the boil.

GB at 2014-12-06 19:19:27

Half Time

GB at 2014-12-06 19:18:26

Good hand signal by SC there to explain why not hand ball. Assistants are encouraged to use such signals if they are considered helpful

GB at 2014-12-06 19:16:44

Never a deliberate hand ball. AM much better placed this time

GB at 2014-12-06 19:15:37

4  minutes to be added on

GB at 2014-12-06 19:15:09

Looks like a consistent theme on the Twitter feed, and I am not the only one who thinks this has gone a bit pear shaped for AM a few times so far

GB at 2014-12-06 19:13:17

I am sure there will be a lot discussed in the referee’s dressing room at half time and I hope they all take their blinkers off and say what they honestly think about the big decisions in the first half

GB at 2014-12-06 19:11:18

AM now seems to be slowing up as he reaches the edge of the Penalty Area and not pressing in as he was earlier

GB at 2014-12-06 19:09:12

Great example of when to hold the flag down then by SC – player coming back from off-side position did not get involved in the active play

GB at 2014-12-06 19:06:59

Routine off-side for MM

GB at 2014-12-06 19:05:38

Well that looked strange to me. Seemed like the Everton player was pushed in the back but AM made a signal to suggest that he had committed a foul

GB at 2014-12-06 19:03:55

Nice to see AM not afraid to put a “wiggly S” into his running and move off the general path from the edge of each Penalty Area

GB at 2014-12-06 19:01:30

It was all going so well then it took a nose dive for AM. The more times I see that penalty replayed the softer it looks

GB at 2014-12-06 18:59:41

The tempo seemed to really rise following the studs in the back by Eliaquim Mangala (MC 20)

GB at 2014-12-06 18:58:22

I think so

GB at 2014-12-06 18:57:55

Boot in the face this time – Serious foul play?


GB at 2014-12-06 18:56:51

Yellow Card Fernando (MC 6). I have seen players sent off for that too

GB at 2014-12-06 18:55:15

No the most clear cut penalty I have ever seen and once again AM  did not give himself the angle to really make a considered decision

GB at 2014-12-06 18:54:05

GOAL! 1 – 0 from the spot

GB at 2014-12-06 18:53:43

GB at 2014-12-06 18:53:24

Penalty – There was a push in the back

GB at 2014-12-06 18:51:12

It was certainly a foul. Does anyone else out there think it was “serious”.  A full set of studs in the back? Hmmmm?

GB at 2014-12-06 18:49:32

Here we go – AM could not have had a great view of that which is why Eliaquim Mangala (MC 20) only received aYellow Card

GB at 2014-12-06 18:47:37

MM looking as calm and composed as ever

GB at 2014-12-06 18:46:37

AM did well then to just check if there was a possible advantage before giving that foul

GB at 2014-12-06 18:45:47

I  must say that AM looks very calm and collected in this first quarter of an hour

GB at 2014-12-06 18:44:42

AM well placed to give the foul there

GB at 2014-12-06 18:43:44

Nice early off-side flag there from SC. All the officials are settled in now

GB at 2014-12-06 18:42:49

AM has set his tolerance level with that first caution but it was quite correct

GB at 2014-12-06 18:41:58

Yellow Card

Séamus Coleman (EV 23) – mandatory caution that one for holding


GB at 2014-12-06 18:41:11

For you new referees out there, note how AM does not stop at the edge of the Penalty Area like it is a brick wall

GB at 2014-12-06 18:39:26

AM just taking the chance to make his mark with a public but quite chat with two players

GB at 2014-12-06 18:38:21

MM will be happy to get his first routine off-side out of the way – good high arm to signify position on the far side

GB at 2014-12-06 18:37:14

Substitution – José Ángel Pozo (MC 78) replaces José Ángel Pozo (MC 78)

GB at 2014-12-06 18:36:12

Andre is already looking very fit as he powers though the centre circle

GB at 2014-12-06 18:34:00

Doesn’t look good for Sergio Agüero (MC 16) at the moment – what a game changer that could be

GB at 2014-12-06 18:33:07

AM was very close to that and could see that there were no offences which led to the players getting injured

GB at 2014-12-06 18:32:54

Players going down all over the place

GB at 2014-12-06 18:31:20

First clash for AM to consider – nothing in that

GB at 2014-12-06 18:30:07

Everton won the toss so it will be Manchester City  to kick off.

Good luck to all the officials and may the ball run kindly for you!

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GB at 2014-12-06 18:25:46

The Teams are in the tunnel – not long now

GB at 2014-12-06 18:24:03

As it is coming up to Christmas, when I saw that Andre was in the middle (and Mark was 4th Official), I could not help thinking about his “name-sake” and the famous line from the 1971 Morecambe and Wise Christmas Special sketch with Eric Morecambe and André Previn – we seem to be playing all the right officials out there this evening ……. but not necessarily in the right order?!


As it happens, Eric’s two favourite teams, Luton and Morecambe, are due to play each other next week.

GB at 2014-12-06 18:22:00

I would normally be commenting that the PGMO has sent the “A Team” out for this game, with a full squad of FIFA Officials on show. However, this does not seem to be a “normal” season, as we have the scenario of Mark Clattenburg holding up the board for two Premier League games on the bounce, following an outing in the Championship last weekend, and Andre Mariner just coming into his 5th Premier League game, following a late start due to an injury.


Although I have a lot of confidence in Andre’s ability to cope with games of this stature, I do wonder if the way our top official seems to have been treated this season, puts added unnecessary pressure on tonight’s referee?  Although it is fair to say that with 9 Premier League games under his belt Mark is not exactly miles behind the amount of appointments of our other senior officials (in addition to his UEFA commitments), the fact remains that a lot of the top Premier League games have already come and gone this season, without his primary involvement.

GB at 2014-12-06 18:20:52

Martin Atkinson got us off to a great start on the Ref Cam coverage earlier today, so let’s hope this evening’s officials can make it a double whammy for the third Team out there!

Tonight’s officials are:

Referee:  Andre Marriner (AM)

AR1: Mike Mullarkey (MM)

AR2: Stephen Childs (SC)

4th Official: Mark Clattenburg (MC)


Andre has issued 19 yellow cards in his first 4 games in the Premier League so far and has yet to administer the ultimate sanction. Having used his “get out of jail free card” on Wednesday night with the clear hand-ball by a defender in the build up to Arsenal’s goal, he will surely be desperate to put in a decent shift tonight.

GB at 2014-12-06 18:17:56

Keith Hackett’s recent blogs on  have highlighted once again the persistent blot on our professional game of simulation or “cheating” if you like. His thoughts on this current trend and how the authorities could implement retrospective punishments by using technology to either punish the guilty culprits or rescind any erroneous sanctions are well worth a read

GB at 2014-12-06 18:15:47

Manchester City fans will no doubt be hoping for a game with no controversial decisions to discuss tonight and they will be particularly keen that none of their players are wrongly cautioned for offences they did not commit! Referees can only give what they see, and here at Ref Cam we obviously get the opportunity to see the incidents from different angles to base our comments on. Some may think that this is unbalanced, however, the referee has the opportunity to get as close as he likes to the tackles and challenges and to get himself into the optimum viewing positions. So I think he actually has the advantage there and it is up to him to use this advantage to the best of his ability to ensure that his big decisions do not end up being criticised. This is what made the Mike Jones’s error last week so much more unfathomable for me – he was right on top of it and had an unobstructed view, yet still a player was cautioned for simulation when he was clearly tripped by an opponent.

GB at 2014-12-06 18:13:41

Today’s earlier results which saw Chelsea losing their unbeaten record this season to Newcastle and Arsenal dropping 3 points at Stoke, will I am sure put extra fire into the Home side as they see their chance to make up some ground at the top of the table.

GB at 2014-12-06 18:12:18

Today’s hosts will be going all out to consolidate their position in second place and Everton will be keen to get their season back on track following only 2 wins in their last 6 matches, in contrast to their start last season which saw just 1 loss in their first 17 games.

The return match for this fixture is scheduled for just 5 week’s time on 10th January so whoever gets that game will be hoping that there is nothing left over from this one for him to sort out.

GB at 2014-12-06 18:09:11

Last season’s meeting at the Etihad Stadium ended 3-1 and was an a feisty open and entertaining contest for Referee Johnathon Moss to keep grips with, eventually finishing up with 9 yellow cards (Man City 5, Everton 4).  Jonathan was criticised after the game for inconsistency in awarding the home side a penalty, but denying Everton a spot-kick in the first half for a similar-looking offence. Let’s hope we are not highlighting any of the official’s decisions for the wrong reasons at the end of this one.

GB at 2014-12-06 18:06:41

Looking back at the history of this match, Manchester City hold the honours at home with 44 wins to Everton’s 19 with 18 draws in the 81 various League encounters in Manchester since the teams first met back in 1899. Taking all League games into consideration home and away, the stats are spookily exactly the same – with 61 wins apiece and 40 draws.

GB at 2014-12-06 18:01:55

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