FINAL SCORE: 2 – 2
DM at 2018-02-04 19:52:48
Hope you enjoyed my @youaretheref ref cam report – certainly differs from the PGMOL party line issued by Dermot Gallagher on Sky Sports. That’s why having an independent voice on refereeing is so important.
DM at 2018-02-04 19:51:45
Dermot Gallagher is wrong – the Liverpool defender in the build up to the first goal DID NOT deliberately play the ball and Kane was clearly offside. Teamwork today between the officials was poor – how he ca describe it as excellent is beyond me. Refereeing standards will never improve if we cannot honestly learn from mistakes.
DM at 2018-02-04 19:49:47
Dermot Gallagher is taking the PGMOL line as he is employed by them. We will never improve refereeing standards if we are not honest and learn from our mistakes.
The teamwork today was very poor and the first penalty should have been offside – the defender has not deliberately played the ball.
DM at 2018-02-04 19:47:07
Well what a breathtaking game of football.
Firstly, let’s look at the big decisions! The first penalty award should not have got to that stage as T10 was in an offside position. The Assistant E Smart recognised that T10 was offside but for some reason decided that the actions of the Liverpool defender in swiping for the ball may have put Kane back onside. In this situation the defender’s action was not a deliberate pass and was therefore irrelevant. Furthermore, the Assistant then informed the referee that he could not be sure. The referee based on this evidence stuck to his original decision and awarded a penalty kick. The Assistant in this situation thought about self-preservation and he made the decision far more scientific than it needed to be. He should have flagged – keep it simple!
The second penalty claim saw referee Moss who was well placed, instantly shout no, make a hand gesture and play on. Assistant Smart then waved his flag to indicate a foul challenge. Regardless of which official was right (I will cover that shortly) the teamwork was poor. The officials both saw the same incident and both came up with a different outcome. This coupled with the poor teamwork in the first situation saw a real breakdown that meant both situations which could have been communicated far more effectively:
1st penalty – Offside flag and indirect free-kick given
2nd penalty – Referee Moss spots foul challenge and awards a penalty
Personally I think that the second penalty is a penalty and the Assistant called this correctly. I was surprised that the referee waved away the claim so quickly as the Assistant was much better placed. However, I think the way in which the first penalty was dealt with meant that referee Moss had lost confidence in his colleague and this is perhaps why there was such a breakdown in teamwork and communication.
Overall, Jon Moss had up to these incidents refereed well. He judged his involvement well and the cautions he issued were correct. I also thought he was right not to caution the Liverpool goalkeeper in the first penalty incident as the Tottenham player took the ball very wide and it was not a DOGSO in the penalty area. Moss worked hard to be close to play but at times he is very central and he needs to work hard to get a better viewing angle. The Assistants had a very mixed afternoon. AR Halliday was poor and his offside judgements inconsistent and in some cases incorrect. AR Smart got the second penalty right but over-complicated the first penalty incident and was not clear in his communication with the referee.
An eventful game and a mixed set of performances from the officials. Lots of talking points at the end and one key match error with the first penalty incident.
DM at 2018-02-04 19:28:37
DM at 2018-02-04 19:27:02
DM at 2018-02-04 19:26:10
AR Smart has now indicated a penalty for a foul by L4
DM at 2018-02-04 19:23:22
DM at 2018-02-04 19:22:36
A minimum of 4 minutes added time
DM at 2018-02-04 19:20:22
Firstly the decision to award a penalty was correct as the goalkeeper fouled T10.
However, T10 should have been flagged offside and I am not sure why the flag did not go up. The Liverpool defender did swipe the ball and try to clear it but that did not detract from the original pass when Kane was offside.
What was really confusing was that AR Smart had dialogue with Jon Moss that appeared to be a session in covering his own backside rather than getting the correct decision. You cannot use the words “I cannot be sure” as that makes the referee doubt your judgement, you are in effect guessing. That is why I think Jon Moss stuck to his guns.
What we are seeing here is an Assistant Referee more concerned with self-preservation than working as a team. Very disappointing and the incorrect outcome.
DM at 2018-02-04 19:15:33
Referee Moss awards a penalty for a foul by by L1 on T10.
The Tottenham player was in an offside position when the ball was played.
Will debrief this one shortly.
DM at 2018-02-04 19:13:32
AR Halliday flags offside against L11 who puts the ball in the back of the net. Looked tight will wait for the replays.
DM at 2018-02-04 19:09:25
I don’t normally comment on the goals but that was absolutely sensational.
DM at 2018-02-04 19:07:24
19 off, 12 on
DM at 2018-02-04 19:06:29
7 off, 32 on
DM at 2018-02-04 19:03:58
I do wonder what training the Assistant Referees are now getting at Select Group Level. There used to be regular practical training with a focus on offside judgement, I understand that this is not happening as regular now and it needs to.
DM at 2018-02-04 19:02:20
AR Halliday eventually flags offside, although the player did not look to be offside he looked level. However, once the official decided that the player was offside he had no need to delay the flag as there was a risk of collision. Again basic Assistant refereeing not done correctly, Andy Halliday is not having a good afternoon.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:59:34
6 off, 11 on
DM at 2018-02-04 18:59:19
Jon Moss chose to caution T20 for simulation after he fell to the ground under no contact. The referee got this spot on, it was not one of those occasions when you could simply play on. The simulation was clear and the his reaction told you that the referee got it right.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:57:38
T20 for unsporting behaviour – simulation
DM at 2018-02-04 18:54:23
Another good decision by the referee as he recognises dangerous play by the Tottenham player
DM at 2018-02-04 18:53:41
14 off, 5 on
19 off, 21 on
DM at 2018-02-04 18:52:52
Good offside flag by AR Smart as T10 is offside and challenges for the ball. The referee also correct to play on as the goalkeeper safely collects the ball.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:51:51
During the caution, the Tottenham player left the field of play. This is because the referee had issued the yellow card and the player still needed treatment. Good advice here is to slow it down and issue the card once the player is treated.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:47:07
Jon Moss correctly cautioned James Milner for a reckless challenge. The commentators are suggesting an advantage could have been played but I don’t think the referee did anything wrong by stopping play. You should only play advantage in those situations if it is a clear and obvious one. This did not appear to be one of those occasions.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:45:38
L7 Unsporting behaviour
DM at 2018-02-04 18:45:12
AR Smart is having a very good game as he once again correctly keeps his flag down for a tight offside claim. The decision proved to be the right one.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:43:06
Good piece of refereeing by Jon Moss as he awarded a contentious goal-kick to Liverpool. Rather than hang around an debate the issue he gave it and got off back to the halfway line.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:37:10
T23 trips L19 and Jon Moss correctly awards a free kick to the home side
DM at 2018-02-04 18:32:30
Jon Moss gets the second half underway
DM at 2018-02-04 18:21:40
Don’t forget to tune in to @youaretheref ref show tomorrow when Keith Hackett and Mark Halsey discuss the weekend’s action.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:21:01
Jon Moss is a referee who likes to let the game flow and on a couple of occasions I have personally disagreed with his choice not to award a free-kick. However, Jon Moss has been consistent in his interpretation and his one yellow card for a reckless challenge by L66 was very well judged. I would like to see Jon Moss work to gain a wider viewing angle and move out of the central position. AR Smart assisted the referee very well in his judgement of the first goal, where L11 was in an offside position but had the ball played to him by an opponent. AR Halliday made a very poor offside judgement in the 34th minute but fortunately the Tottenham player did not go on to score following the incorrect flag. So far the referee has contributed to the game and he has managed the players well. I hope this continues in the second half.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:17:13
DM at 2018-02-04 18:16:24
A minimum of 1 minute added time to be played
DM at 2018-02-04 18:15:26
Jon Moss appeared to reluctantly award a free kick but he was right to do so as T19 caught L19 down the back of his leg.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:14:14
L66 unsporting behaviour
DM at 2018-02-04 18:13:52
The challenge by L66 was a reckless one and the referee is correct to issue a yellow card. The fact that the player has made slight contact with the ball is irrelevant. The speed of the challenge and the fact that little regard was paid to the safety of the opponent mean it is reckless.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:11:46
Clear holding offence by L23 who drags his opponent to the floor. Tottenham players are protesting that L19 should have been cautioned for kicking the ball away. I think Jon Moss got that right the first caution is an important marker and that would not have been well judged in the context of the game.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:08:40
Interestingly once again the commentators refer to VAR following the incorrect flag by Andy Halliday. In that situation, if the referee blows his whistle and then the player scores, unfortunately VAR cannot correct the error as play was stopped before the ball enters the goal. I should imagine that Assistants will be encouraged to keep their flag down for tight offsides and then ask VAR to refere should a goal be scored.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:06:04
AR Halliday indicates offside against T7 , the decision was incorrect as the Tottenham player was level when the ball was played. Disappointing that one of the more experienced select group Assistants gets such a basic decision wrong.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:04:10
Very good piece of refereeing by Jon Moss as T5 trips L11 who was going nowhere with the ball. The referee waited before awarding the free-kick to see momentarily if the Liverpool player would gain an advantage. Sometimes a delay can be incorrectly perceived as a lack of confidence or ‘playing to the shout’. The referee got this right and he has to do what he thinks is right, regardless of the crowd reaction.
DM at 2018-02-04 18:00:50
L9 penalised for a push on T19 which was clear. L7 is unhappy with the decision and referee Moss speaks to the player to calm him down.
DM at 2018-02-04 17:58:56
Jon Moss is consistent in his interpretation of foul challenges as he waves on following a challenge by T10 on L11. This was very similar to the one earlier on which I felt was a foul. Jon Moss to be fair has judged both challenges as acceptable.
DM at 2018-02-04 17:56:37
Penalty Claim by Tottenham waved away correctly by the referee. T15 was fairly challenged and play on was the correct outcome in my opinion.
DM at 2018-02-04 17:55:40
Once again I think Jon Moss has missed a clear foul. T20 clearly pushed L6 prior to the ball going out for a corner.
DM at 2018-02-04 17:53:56
I think that Jon Moss is a little too central which means he is not always getting a good viewing angle. He should work hard to move left or right and open up his body so he is not looking straight on.
DM at 2018-02-04 17:51:12
The match tempo has just gone up as Jon Moss waves away claims for a free kick for the home team on two occasions. I think that the challenge from T33 was a careless one and a foul should have been awarded.
DM at 2018-02-04 17:49:27
Jon Moss nearly got caught in a poor position at the corner kick. He should have been on his toes so he could easily move out the way and not get in the way of the players or the ball.
DM at 2018-02-04 17:45:21
I am sure that the match officials are aware of the holding incidents in the game between Crystal Palace and Newcastle. Jon Moss keen to remind the players prior to the corner kick being taken that he is watching.
DM at 2018-02-04 17:43:04
L66 carelessly trips T20 as the ball is played towards the touchline. Jon Moss recognises the offence well and awards a free kick only.
DM at 2018-02-04 17:41:13
L14 holds T19 and the referee attempts to play an advantage. No advantage accrued and Jon Moss correctly brought play back for the original offence. The referee communicated this well. He used the hand signal to show his intentions which made the decision to bring play back a lot easier.
DM at 2018-02-04 17:36:46
Jon Moss awards the first free kick of the match for a careless challenge on L7
DM at 2018-02-04 17:36:05
What a start! A goal for the home side already. AR Smart recognised that L11 scored from what appeared to be an offside position but the ball had been played by an opponent. This shows the importance of Assistant Referees observing the big picture and not just focusing on the position of the second last defender.
DM at 2018-02-04 17:33:01
DM at 2018-02-04 17:30:17
Jon Moss gets the match underway
DM at 2018-02-04 17:25:28
Having taken control of 23 matches this season, Jon Moss has issued 84 yellow cards and 3 red cards. By common consensus, he is having a very good season and I hope that continues with a masterclass performance today.
DM at 2018-02-04 17:22:17
Appointed Match officials:
Referee – Jon Moss
Assistants – Eddie Smart and Andrew Halliday
4th official – Martin Atkinson
DM at 2018-02-04 17:21:27
The referee for the match is Jon Moss from West Riding and his Assistants are Eddie Smart (technical area side) and Andrew Halliday (far side), with Martin Atkinson holding the boards as fourth official.
DM at 2018-02-04 17:18:22
Welcome to this afternoon’s ref cam as Liverpool play Tottenham in the EPL.