FINAL SCORE: 6 – 1
GB at 2015-04-21 22:03:45
I hope you can join us again this weekend
GB at 2015-04-21 22:02:18
I am sure that most supporters will think that went really well for our English officials, and to be fair it could have gone a lot worse!
The newspapers will not be full of Martin Atkinson in the morning, but he will probably be thinking to himself right now before the UEFA Match Delegate comes in, “Did I do enough? Did I get away with?” and who knows …
All I can do is give my opinion which I set out at half time and has not really changed. In fact the first half was where all the main discussion points occurred for the referee. The first flash point was in the 24th minute when two players reacted petulantly towards each other near the corner flag. As I said in my blog, the TV pictures did not really show how forceful Martin was in his talking to the players, but two yellow cards for adopting an aggressive attitude would have stamped his authority on the game a lot more publically. Managers, players and fans may think he got away with it – a UEFA delegate may not, and I would coach a referee to be stronger in those situations.
Then there was the missed Red card in the 42nd minute when Holger Badstuber (BM 28) jumped at an opponent with two feet off the ground – dare I say I think that Martin would have made a different decision if the challenge was made by a Porto player in front of the technical areas and the score was 3 – 1? Humm? What is the difference? That was a clear case of a challenge made with excessive force which endangered the safety of an opponent in my opinion. But I repeat, Managers, players and fans may think he got away with it – a UEFA delegate may not.
Positioning wise Martin was always in a close proximity even if he did get in the way occasionally, but he was were he should have been when the big calls needed to be made and for me he did not miss much at all. He may have tried to keep his tinder dry just a little too long for me in the first half, but even in taking my thoughts about a missed red card into perspective it would be unfair to say that he did not have full control of the game.
So all in all, it could have been a lot worse, but I would love to be a fly on the wall when the de-brief takes place back at the hotel. At least he will know what those responsible for assessing his performance though of him tonight, rather than waiting for a week like he has to in the Premier League!
Quiet night for the assistants with very few off sides in the game and all decisions correct as far as I was concerned.
Still waiting to see one of those AARs earn their match fee though!
Hope you enjoyed this one and please keep your comments coming on @youaretheref
GB at 2015-04-21 21:39:13
My final summary will follow in a few minutes; meanwhile I hope you can join us again this weekend for some great Premier League action as the scrap for survival and European places really starts to hot up.
Saturday 25th April:
Southampton v Tottenham KO 12:45pm
Man City v Aston Villa KO 5:30pm
Then on Sunday 26th April:
Everton v Manchester United KO 1:30pm
Arsenal v Chelsea KO 4:00pm
These games are followed late on Sunday night when YATR’s sojourn into the North American Major League Soccer continues with:
New York Red Bulls v LA Galaxy 22:00 pm (SKY 5)
A list of all the big games coming up on YATR is always available at: http://you-are-the-ref.com/ref-cam/
GB at 2015-04-21 21:38:08
This week’s Ref Show was posted last night and continues the debate on whether Mike Dean should have given a foul on the half-way-line against John Terry in the build up to the only goal of the weekend’s biggest game, along with a number of other big decisions which the team of experts dissect and give their independent opinions on.
All the previous editions of the Ref Show are still available to view at http://you-are-the-ref.com/yatr-tv/the-ref-show/ so why not take a look later and let us know if you agree with the panel on Twitter @youaretheref or email us at Info@you-are-the-ref.com
GB at 2015-04-21 21:37:04
Bayern Munich 6 – 1 Porto
MA may feel “satisfied” with how things have gone, but I do think there was still room for improvement from a coaching perspective which I will cover at the end in my summary
GB at 2015-04-21 21:34:26
minimum of 3 minutes to be added
GB at 2015-04-21 21:33:27
well I got that wrong at the start – not very often you see coaches sent from the stand when the game is this one sided
GB at 2015-04-21 21:32:16
Xabi Alonso (BM 3)
GB at 2015-04-21 21:31:49
= = for Iván Marcano (P 5)
All these games need to be closed out properly. well done for not turning a blind eye to that one. should have been two reds by now though
GB at 2015-04-21 21:28:51
this really does look like a gave which should be straight forward to close out for the officials in the last 5 minutes
GB at 2015-04-21 21:26:15
MA’s movement may have been deceptive tonight as he has hardy exerted significant amounts of energy but he has not really been very far away from play when he has needed to make his decisions. If anything, he has been a little too close in the centre on occasions.
GB at 2015-04-21 21:23:35
MA had a great view of that in the centre – but what did he see I wonder. Players “happy” with free kick, so just move on
GB at 2015-04-21 21:21:49
as I said a few minutes ago – expect MA to give every little free kick from here on without raising his profile unless he really needs to
GB at 2015-04-21 21:20:20
Well we may have a game on after all if Porto push forwards like this for the next 14 minutes
GB at 2015-04-21 21:18:55
not surprised MA is going to give everything now – he wants to keep this one where he has it
GB at 2015-04-21 21:18:08
Porto only needs 2 more goals to win of course
GB at 2015-04-21 21:17:21
Jackson Martínez (P 9)
Good decision by SC there. Player behind the ball for final pass so cannot be off side
GB at 2015-04-21 21:15:22
Iván Marcano (P 5)
another routine yellow card for the Porto side. Good to see MA is just carrying on doing his job as I said he should just now
GB at 2015-04-21 21:14:06
just in on Twitter:
Bik M’path @2wheels04
@youaretheref Methinks this is the type of 2nd half, where the final whistle is a formality, and hubris likely to set in, is one to focus.
I must say I have to agree
GB at 2015-04-21 21:12:24
Any thoughts on that big decision for me in the first half for that two footed challenge? Do you think the officials got it right? Let us know on Twitter @youaretheref or email us at Info@you-are-the-ref.com
GB at 2015-04-21 21:11:16
I was pleased to see MA recognise that last yellow card challenge – he needs to just keep doing his job even if the result of the game is in no doubt
GB at 2015-04-21 21:10:12
Ricardo Pereira (P 21)
Clear reckless challenge
GB at 2015-04-21 21:08:38
That looked like a last touch by a Porto player for a corner not a goal kick – lot of help the AAR was again.
Anyone out there think these officials are worth more than goal line technology?
GB at 2015-04-21 21:06:19
MA took that chance then to move in and talk to the players about grappling before the corner. It is important for referees just to let everyone know they are still around
GB at 2015-04-21 21:04:48
GB at 2015-04-21 21:04:15
The way this is panning out all the officials just need to concentrate on the basics to make a good impression from here on in
GB at 2015-04-21 21:01:27
First “ceremonial” free kick of the game. Spray out
I still like the way Mike Dean does it – he sprays it down first then makes the players in the wall walk back behind it. For me that is quicker than getting the wall back then spraying all over their feet!
GB at 2015-04-21 20:59:17
10 minutes gone and MA will not be too disappointed that both teams just want to kick the ball about instead of kicking each other
GB at 2015-04-21 20:58:12
It may be over as a contest, but there is still a job to do by the officials
GB at 2015-04-21 20:55:42
as the game goes through a quiet period the officials still need to bet ready for the next flash point
GB at 2015-04-21 20:53:46
very good positive arm signal then by MA – body language is obviously so much more important in international game
GB at 2015-04-21 20:52:09
it will be interesting to see what game plan MA has in the second half. The first would obviously be lets just get through this without any more talking points, but he will be aware that it could all change with one decision or poor challenge
GB at 2015-04-21 20:48:57
and we are off again
GB at 2015-04-21 20:45:40
This is turning into a game which demonstrates just how difficult it is to referee at this level and to get the balance right in regards to managing EVERYONE’S expectations. The players are going down to the slightest touch, and the next thing you know they are pushing each other in the face and chest, then jumping in with two feet.
Looking at the bigger picture, no one is talking about the referee at half time, but as a purist, I have to pick out that one challenge in the 42nd minute by Holger Badstuber (BM 28). I know that would have been an enormous decision to make here in Munich to send the player off, but under the letter of the law that was a clear case of a challenge made with excessive force which endangered the safety of an opponent. Lots of people would not be surprised that he was not sent off but I was.
Parking that one now, Martin Atkinson clearly had a game plan to show his authority early by giving lots of free kicks, which I felt worked for him to a certain degree, but then the players seemed to take advantage and pushed their luck before he came in with the first yellow card just in time. The second yellow was also nailed on for simulation and I have made my views clear about the third one.
It remains to be seen if Martin will get away with that one but if Porto come out and start jumping in at players with two feet off the ground he will only have himself to blame.
Teamwork is very good so far with little for the assistants to do. Just once I felt Simon Child may have given a free kick for an offence near to him – but to be fair this was one of those examples of how officiating in Europe is different, sometimes it is not expected.
GB at 2015-04-21 20:35:07
Keith Hackett’s first Blog after the past weekend’s Premier league fixtures opens the debate about the failure of our top flight referees to respond appropriately to the illegal use of the arms by players challenging for the ball.
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GB at 2015-04-21 20:33:51
Bayern Munich 5 – 0 Porto
GB at 2015-04-21 20:31:40
into time added on now
GB at 2015-04-21 20:30:38
I was just about to write something about the need to stay focused for the last 5 minutes of the half then MA had what was for me a straight forward decision to make to send of Holger Badstuber (BM 28) for that dreadful two foot challenge – more thoughts at half time
GB at 2015-04-21 20:28:23
Holger Badstuber (BM 28)
WELL I THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RED
GB at 2015-04-21 20:26:41
Robert Lewandowski (BM 9)
turning into a rout
GB at 2015-04-21 20:25:41
Jackson Martínez (P 9) for simulation
of course our referees have had a lot of practice on those at home this season
Excellent caution technique there my MA waiting for the player to get to his feet before showing him the yellow card
GB at 2015-04-21 20:22:38
Thomas Müller (BM 25) (or OWN GOAL)
No chance of penalties now
GB at 2015-04-21 20:21:27
and a safe free kick to Porto on the edge of their penalty area – far be it for me to say that was an attempt to even things up
GB at 2015-04-21 20:20:37
Héctor Herrera (P 16)
looks like MA could hear me. a challenge from behind gets what it deserved
GB at 2015-04-21 20:18:43
another challenge from behind goes by. Teams in Europe usually expect these. It was on the half way line – just give it
GB at 2015-04-21 20:17:20
30 minutes gone and the officials know they have a game on their hands
GB at 2015-04-21 20:16:15
That tackle from behind got away from MA there. He needs to be consistent and give those as he was in the first few minutes. It is OK to try to let the game go at home sometimes, but this needs a consistent approach to all careless challenges
GB at 2015-04-21 20:14:38
Another goal with no doubt about its authenticity, but now the officials really need to concentrate because sooner of later Porto may react
GB at 2015-04-21 20:13:22
Robert Lewandowski (BM 9)
All one way traffic at the moment
GB at 2015-04-21 20:12:11
MA needed to set his tolerance level there – especially after the goal. TV pictures did not really show how he dealt with the players but if this all kicks off later that will be the first incident to hang it on. Referees really need to be strong in European games
GB at 2015-04-21 20:10:00
All our officials will be well happy that none of the goals were controversial
GB at 2015-04-21 20:09:01
Jérôme Boateng (BM 17)
Bayern Munich 2 – 0 Porto
GB at 2015-04-21 20:08:05
MA getting sucked into where the players want to play the ball again – this can easily be corrected by getting wider or reading the game better
GB at 2015-04-21 20:06:55
I personally think he has got the balance just about right in the first 20 minutes but the game has not even really warmed up yet
GB at 2015-04-21 20:05:55
MA needs to keep the lid on this – it may look like he is stopping play too much but the alternative would be a lot worse for the game as a whole
GB at 2015-04-21 20:04:29
I cant say I agree with the commentators. MA needs to be very careful that the game does not get away from him. A big “NO MORE” signal there in any language now he has to mean what he said
GB at 2015-04-21 20:03:00
MA was very alert then and telegraphed the action of the player when he got up – he was ready for a careless challenge from behind and acted immediately.
GB at 2015-04-21 20:00:59
MA will be disappointed to get mixed up with the play then – he certainly got away with it though as Munich go 1 up Thiago Alcántara (BM 6)
GB at 2015-04-21 19:58:40
That said – just a slight delay in giving that free kick in the Porto penalty area by MA there. That is not the area of the field of play to be indecisive!
GB at 2015-04-21 19:57:37
First ten minute block in the bank – not exactly a quiet one for the officials but all good so far with no surprises
GB at 2015-04-21 19:56:34
Good to see MA coming into the frame and pressing into the penalty area for the quick break by Munich
GB at 2015-04-21 19:55:41
SC could have signalled for that free kick in front of him to enhance the teamwork
GB at 2015-04-21 19:53:51
All very good to keep giving them but sooner or later MA will be forced to raise his profile earlier than he would have liked. So far every free kicks have been warranted
GB at 2015-04-21 19:52:33
3 free kicks in the first 5 minutes. MA is definitely going safety first and managing the expectations of the players for games of this nature
GB at 2015-04-21 19:51:05
not much of an appeal then for hand ball when the Munich player blasted it at the defender – thank goodness
GB at 2015-04-21 19:49:36
Good spot for hand ball on the ground there well signalled by MA so players did not think the free kick was for the challenge
GB at 2015-04-21 19:48:37
The first big difference you will notice is the conduct from the managers in the technical areas. I could never understand how English Managers could behave so well in Europe then immediately go back to their old ways on Saturdays?
GB at 2015-04-21 19:48:14
There is no doubt that although the laws of the game are the same, you cannot referee this one like a Premier League game and I hope to try to point out some of the differences as they occur.
GB at 2015-04-21 19:47:23
First east free kick for a clear pull back
GB at 2015-04-21 19:46:52
AR1: Michael Mullarkey (MM) is patrolling the touchline in front of the technical areas.
GB at 2015-04-21 19:46:19
FC Bayern München won the toss so it will be FC Porto to kick off.
Good luck to all the officials and may the ball run kindly for you!
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GB at 2015-04-21 19:44:47
… with that colour on I meant of course
GB at 2015-04-21 19:43:38
Well our officials should certainly stand out in one way tonight with that could on!
GB at 2015-04-21 19:42:32
Not long to go now as the players and officials prepare to leave the tunnel.
GB at 2015-04-21 19:41:32
Apologies to Craig – I should have mentioned that it was also announced today that he will be 4th Officials for the FA Cup Final
GB at 2015-04-21 19:36:39
AR1: Michael Mullarkey is obviously no stranger to the big occasion when it comes to over-seas appointments and it will come of great comfort to tonight’s referee to know that he has a former World Cup Final assistant watching his back on one side of the field of play.
AR2: Stephen Child is also no stranger to big games on foreign shores with over 60 internationals to his name including experience at the FIFA U20 World Cup in Columbia in 2011 and FIFA U17 World Cup in UAE in 2013.
With all this experience on the line, there should be no excuses for any poor teamwork to be displayed tonight.
Darren England obtained his Assistant Referee FIFA badge in 2013 and already has 30 international appointments under his belt including 5 games at last year’s U19 EURO finals in Hungary. Unlike 4th Officials in Premier League games in England, Darren would not take over from the referee in case of emergency tonight, but would replace either of the Assistants, as well as having all the responsibilities allocated to him under the Laws of the Game in respect to monitoring the technical areas and assisting the referee to control the game.
Darren will need to keep his feet on the ground tonight following the announcement earlier today that he has been selected to run the line at this season’s FA Cup Final at the end of May.
Additional Assistant Referees:
These officials have been with us for some time now in UEFA Club Competitions since the original experiment in the UEFA European Under-19 Championship mini-tournament in Slovenia in 2008, and are now part of the Laws of the Game geared to help the referee in the decision-making process.
The additional assistant referees are positioned alongside each goal, with the particular brief to watch for penalty-area incidents such as pushing or holding. UEFA chief refereeing officer Pierluigi Collina explains, “The main goal is for additional assistant referees to give support when a decision has to be taken – particularly inside the penalty area, where a decision can affect the result of a match”.
Personally I have yet to see a game when one of these additional bag carriers has “saved the day”. I am sure I must be pushing against an open door with that one as far as any Celtic fans are concerned after their Cup semi-final against Inverness at the weekend.
@youaretheref Tweeted the following on Monday morning:
“ #Celtic’s treble hopes ended when a handball decision was missed – are goal-line officials useful, or should they be scrapped? #YATR ”.
Maybe this will be the game to prove me wrong.
AAR1: Anthony Taylor obtained his FIFA badge in 2013 and he will replace martin Atkinson in case of an emergency in this game.
AAR2: Craig Pawson is the latest edition to the FIFA ranks from England, having picked up his badge in January this year and has yet to take charge in the middle of a full international.
GB at 2015-04-21 19:35:03
Tonight’s officials are all from England:
Referee: Martin Atkinson (MA)
AR1: Michael Mullarkey (MM)
AR2: Steven Child (SC)
AAR1: Anthony Taylor (AT)
AAR2: Craig Pawson (CP)
4th Official: Darren England (DE)
Martin Atkinson is obviously well thought of by UEFA to have been appointed for the second leg of this Quarter Final and he will be fully aware that he is representing the English Football Association as well as all his colleagues as he steps out into the cauldron in Munich this evening.
It may be over a year away, but UEFA will already be scrutinising the top officials from within all the respective Federations under their derestriction in preparation to drawing up their short list for the EURO Finals in France 2016. Martin will have to be on top form this evening to keep pace with England’s other top UEFA official, after Mark Clattenburg set the bar high last week at PSG. Ultimately the respective federations will have the chance to canvas from within their own ranks, but it still comes down to the individuals performing well in their high profile appointments to secure the big prizes. The second leg of any two game fixture is obviously considered to be more important, so Martin will be determined to put a good shift in tonight.
With 95 internationals under his belt already since his elevation to the FIFA List in 2006, Martin has the credentials to stake a claim for the short trip across the Channel next Summer, but If the decision was to be made now, YATR considers that Clatenburg has had the edge this season by demonstrating the levels of fitness and consistency which have made his performances stand out amongst his peers. There is no doubt that the race to be England’s representative in France next year has already started and with our top two UEFA Officials both our at quarter-final stage of the Champions League, it already looks like it’s all to play for!
The 1st Leg of this game last week was conducted by Carlos Velasco Carballo of Spain, who does not seem to have left anything hanging over for our referee to sort out tonight with “only” 7 yellow cards in the game, 3 for FC Porto and 4 for Bayern Munich.
GB at 2015-04-21 19:33:19
Here are the teams for this evening’s game:
FC BAYERN MÜNCHEN
Manuel Neuer (BM 1)
Xabi Alonso (BM 3)
Thiago Alcántara (BM 6)
Robert Lewandowski (BM 9)
Rafinha (BM 13)
Jérôme Boateng (BM 17)
Juan Bernat (BM 18)
Mario Götze (BM 19)
Philipp Lahm (BM 21)
Thomas Müller (BM 25)
Holger Badstuber (BM 28)
Dante (BM 4)
Claudio Pizarro (BM 14)
Gianluca Gaudino (BM 16)
Sebastian Rode (BM 20)
Pepe Reina (BM 23)
Mitchell Weiser (BM 30)
Bastian Schweinsteiger (BM 31)
Fabiano (P 12)
Bruno Martins Indi (P 3)
Maicon (P 4)
Iván Marcano (P 5)
Casemiro (P 6)
Ricardo Quaresma (P 7)
Yacine Brahimi (P 8)
Jackson Martínez (P 9)
Diego Reyes (P 13)
Héctor Herrera (P 16)
Óliver Torres (P 30)
Helton (P 1)
Juan Quintero (P 10)
Hernâni (P 17)
Ricardo (P 24)
Rubén Neves (P 36)
Vincent Aboubakar (P 99)
GB at 2015-04-21 19:29:37
As undisputed leaders of the Bundesliga, who are approaching their third title in a row, Bayern Munich are 3rd in the UEFA rankings and are one of the teams with the most appearances in the group stage of the Champions League, just behind FC Porto, who are joint record holders for qualifying. This season, the team led by Pep Guardiola (who faced Julen Lopetegui last week for the first time since they both played together for FC Barcelona) topped their group, with 15 points, from five wins and just one defeat (by Manchester City).
In the history of matches pitching the Portuguese and the German teams, there have been very few occasions when the have crossed swords before:
The first occasion was the historic victory in the final of the European Cup (the forerunner of the Champions League), in Vienna, in 1987 when FC Porto took the honours with a 2 – 1 victory curtsey of two late goals.
Since then, these teams have been drawn together on only 2 further occasions before last week’s first leg, with the Germans getting the upper-hand each time.
The teams first met at the same stage as tonight in the season 1990/91, with a victory for the German team: after a 1-1 draw in Munich, then a 0-2 away win in Porto.
The last meeting was 15 years ago, in the 1999/20 season, also in the quarter-finals stage of the Champions League: in the first leg, played at the extinct Estádio das Antas, the score was a 1-1 draw; in the second leg (which was refereed by Hugh Dallas from Scotland and which my research suggests you don’t mention to any FC Porto fans!), Bayern Munich won 2-1, and assured their qualification to the semi-finals.
GB at 2015-04-21 19:26:20
Porto arrive here in Germany’s 3rd City with a healthy 2 goal lead, having taken full advantage of the home tie last week to win the first encounter 3 – 1. Bayern Munich on the other hand, will be fully aware of the advantage that away goal may give them if they can chalk up a couple of goals with no response in front of their fanatical home fans.
One thing is for certain, the only possible score line at the end of extra time which could cause the game to go to penalties is another 3 – 1 home win.
GB at 2015-04-21 19:25:08
20 minutes to go before KO and welcome to this evening’s live RefCam coverage of the second leg of the Champions League Quarter Final between FC Bayern München and FC Porto. Feel free to interact with me during the game by joining in on Twitter @youaretheref or e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.org