Crystal Palace v West Bromwich Albion


GT at 2015-10-03 14:43:29

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GT at 2015-10-03 14:41:54

Let us know what you think of Moss’ performance at Selhurst Park today, and give us your views by contacting us either on Twitter @youaretheref or email us at

GT at 2015-10-03 14:40:23

As for our referees today…

I am afraid Jon was very inconsistent during the first half, leaving us all asking what Johan Cabaye had to do in order to receive a caution.

As for the second half…a lacklustre, even lazy, performance from Jon Moss.

Is he unfit, or just idle?

I would love to see his sprint data from this game as the heart rate traces would surely show him working at little more than a pedestrian rate.

Mike Riley must get this referee on to the training field and make him run, or see if he is capable of doing so.

Contrast Jon’s lack of movement with that of England’s best referee, Mark Clattenburg.

Clatts is obviously way above Moss in terms of ability – and that is fair to say of all his colleagues – but where Moss has no excuse is in the chasm which is difference in their fitness levels.

And that is inexcusable.

There is no place at Select Group level for a lazy and apparently unfit referee, and Jon should have a good look at himself because that is how his performance today makes him look.

As a Headteacher, I am sure he is used to reports on his students, and here is one he may have read previously, but sums up his display at Selhurst Park today…”COULD DO BETTER”.

Rarely do we get to witness a refereeing performance from which so much can be learned, but for all the wrong reasons.

For all aspiring match officials, take a look at Moss’ lack of movement throughout this game.

Then recall how many fouls, handballs, etc were missed by Jon today.

Yes, he may argue, he got the penalty call correct…but should the scorer (Cabaye) have been on the field of play having committed two cautionable offences in the first half?

An infuriating performance from a referee who looked either lazy, unfit or uninterested today.

I do not know which of the above applies to you, Jon…but I have my suspicions.

GT at 2015-10-03 14:37:22

Full Time

That is the end of the game and Palace move to within a point of the top of the table with another win today.

GT at 2015-10-03 14:33:51

The 90 minutes are up…4 to go on

89 minutes

GT at 2015-10-03 14:32:04

Cabaye coolly puts away the penalty kick

GT at 2015-10-03 14:31:19

PENALTY to Palace

Correct as Zaha is brought down


GT at 2015-10-03 14:30:08

Zaha and Jacob come together again, and both players are cautioned.

Correct decisions.

Yellow Card


GT at 2015-10-03 14:25:31

A handball goes unpunished..and why?

Because Jon is AGAIN stood in the centre circle and not working to view incidents where the ball is actually arriving into.


GT at 2015-10-03 14:23:38

Ten minutes to go…

GT at 2015-10-03 14:23:08

Some time later, a caution follows for Campbell…was it for that act of simulation Jon?

I am confused!

As I said at half time….I do not know what this referee is going to do next

Yellow Card

GT at 2015-10-03 14:21:57

Campbell goes down in the penalty and asks for a penalty area.

Looks to me like he was attempting to deceive the referee.

Why was he not cautioned for that, you may ask?

75 minutes

GT at 2015-10-03 14:18:13

Gayle (Palace) is replaced by Campbell with 15 minutes to go

69 minutes

GT at 2015-10-03 14:13:21

Morrison leaves the action and is replaced by McManaman as WBA go in search of the equaliser

GT at 2015-10-03 14:12:29

Lovely delivery from Cabaye (who is perhaps lucky not to have received two cautions earlier in the game), and the Palace 10 puts away the header

67 minutes

GT at 2015-10-03 14:11:16

GOAL! Yannick Bolasie

GT at 2015-10-03 14:06:57

Gardner risks a penalty after the ball and his arm meet in the penalty area.

There is little chance of Mossy giving that though as he was looking at it from his customary position too close to the centre circle.

GT at 2015-10-03 14:04:51

Yellow Card James Chester (WBA) after losing the ball then pulling his opponent to the ground.

Correct decision…even if given from considerable distant (again!)

GT at 2015-10-03 14:03:16

An hour of the action has passed and neither side has managed the breakthrough.

Whilst Jon Moss has still not managed to find a decent sprint.

With 30 minutes to go, he should be fresh as a daisy, after ambling around the field of play so far.

GT at 2015-10-03 14:02:29

That looked mysteriously offside…and Andy Halliday correctly saw it, and gave it.

He is, at least, on his game today.

Well done, Andy.


GT at 2015-10-03 13:57:33

Brede Hangeland comes through the back of José Salomón Rondón and a free kick is correctly awarded to WBA

GT at 2015-10-03 13:55:38

More than by luck than effort, Mossy finds himself in a good position to judge a foul to WBA.

Probably because it took place in the centre circle, and he hasn’t left that area for the past five minutes.

Come on referee, put some work in.

GT at 2015-10-03 13:52:34

Look at Jon’s movement, or lack of it!

He is such an infuriating referee…for goodness sake, RUN MAN, RUN!!

GT at 2015-10-03 13:51:27

Cabaye and Gardner collide, leaving the Palace man in some discomfort, but it was a completely accidental collision.

GT at 2015-10-03 13:48:31

Gardner replaces Berahino (WBA) for this second half as we get going again…

GT at 2015-10-03 13:46:12

The second half is almost upon us, and Jon really has to step up and join in during this 45 minutes.

It is one of those performances I used to dread from referees when running the line for them, as I had no idea what he was going to do next.

The only consistency is Jon’s inconsistency.

Is this referee totally out of his depth?

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GT at 2015-10-03 13:37:57

As we reach half-time, it has been unspectacular stuff from both sides, referee Moss and assistant Holmes.

Mossy got a few things correct, but had a ‘sticky’ five minutes during which he missed a clear caution for Johan Cabaye (17 minutes).

Unfortunately, he repeated that mistake on 35 minutes when the same player escaped another yellow card.

Too many fouls went unspotted and unpunished and, sadly, as predicted Jon got worse as the game wore on.

Culminating in a bizarre decision of ‘nothing given’ towards the end of the half when WBA’s Chris Brunt only had eyes for Wilfred Zaha, pushed over the Palace man, but Moss and Adrian Holmes astonished everyone by not only letting off Brunt with no card, but worse still…not even a foul.

Oh dear…

GT at 2015-10-03 13:33:29

And there is the half-time whistle…

Half Time

GT at 2015-10-03 13:32:58

Why on earth is that NOT a free kick to Palace?

Brunt is only looking at Wilfred Zaha, never the ball, and blatantly pushes over the Palace star man.

Awful refereeing by Jon Moss and weak assisting by Adrian Holmes who was ideally placed to help out his wanting referee.

Half time cannot come quickly enough for the referee, as his game is getting worse.

43 minutes

GT at 2015-10-03 13:30:10

Chester (WBA) is penalised for a holding offence on Kelly but to be fair to the Baggies’ man, he wasn’t doing anything worse than his Palace marker

GT at 2015-10-03 13:28:40

Fletcher is furious with Jon as he waves away the WBA skipper’s appeals for a penalty, but Mossy got that one spot-on

35 minutes

GT at 2015-10-03 13:22:53

Gayle throws himself to the ground and screams ‘penalty’ but Mossy is unmoved, and correctly waves away the call.

There was a small amount of contact, so there is no caution for simulation (diving).

Well done, referee

GT at 2015-10-03 13:20:33

Cabaye commits another late and poor challenge, but again, escapes a caution from Mossy.

He should have had at least one yellow card by now.

Come on Jon, step up and join in…

GT at 2015-10-03 13:18:55

Very well spotted by Adrian Holmes – goal kick to WBA.

Good work, Adrian.

GT at 2015-10-03 13:15:30

Jon needs to step up his game as too many fouls are being committed and, indeed, missed.

He needs to get closer to active play and talk players through challenges, encouraging them to ‘keep it clean’.

The players will then get the message that he is around and watching closely, and change their behaviour.

25 minutes

GT at 2015-10-03 13:11:41

Pape N’Diaye Souaré is cautioned for a late and high challenge.

Correct decision Yellow Card

23 minutes

GT at 2015-10-03 13:10:21

Jonny Evans is replaced by James Chester as the former Man Utd man has picked up a hamstring injury in his left leg

GT at 2015-10-03 13:08:58

…and now Mossy misses a clear free kick for Palace right in front of him.

I do hope this poor five minutes spell isn’t an indication of Jon’s game beginning to fall apart again

20 minutes

GT at 2015-10-03 13:07:45

Claudio Yacob is the latest player to escape a caution as he tries to excahnge shirts with his opponent after 20 minutes!

GT at 2015-10-03 13:05:38

Another good offside call by Andy Halliday.

Keep up that level, Andy…

GT at 2015-10-03 13:03:47

But Mossy immediately undoes that good work by missing the most obvious caution for Yohan Cabaye.

Come on, Jon, concentrate…

GT at 2015-10-03 13:02:36

Yellow Card for James McClean for a late challenge on Pape N’Diaye Souaré

Correct decision, Mossy.

GT at 2015-10-03 12:59:56

A routine, but nevertheless correct, offside call from Andy Halliday.

Well done lino!

GT at 2015-10-03 12:59:11

Good team work between Jon and Adrian as they take their time over the award of a throw-in to Palace.

On the face of it, a small decision, but taking into consideration it was right in front of the technical areas, it becomes a much more important one to call correctly.

GT at 2015-10-03 12:56:08

Ten minutes into the game, and it has been fairly routine.

Mossy will be pleased with the pace of the action as it isn’t an end-to-end affair, which wouldn’t suit him.

So far, so good for our referees…

GT at 2015-10-03 12:51:57

Excellent advantage applied by Mossy as Yannick Bolasie breaks for Palace

GT at 2015-10-03 12:49:09

It’s a fantastic place, Selhurst Park, to run the line.

I used to love being there…a good, old  style ground where the crowd is right on your back, and you can hear every comment!

25 seconds

GT at 2015-10-03 12:47:00

Small foul by Gayle, spotted by Mossy, and a free lick is correctly awarded to WBA – 25 seconds!

GT at 2015-10-03 12:45:54

Crystal Palace take the kick-off and get us under way…

GT at 2015-10-03 12:38:20

It’s almost time for kick-off at Selhurst Park…

GT at 2015-10-03 12:19:28

As for our referees today…

Jon Moss leads the teams out on the back of a brighter season than he has previously enjoyed.

However this fixture may hold troubled memories for the 44-year-old Sunderland whistler, as he refereed the corresponding fixture last season and missed obvious penalties for both sides.

YATR Refcam followers also remember I commentated on Mossy’s performance on this season’s opener, Manchester United v Spurs, where he enjoyed a good game.

My only concern that day surrounded Jon’s fitness levels, particularly his stamina and ability to stay credibly close to play as the game entered the final quarter.

Two months later it will be interesting to see if Mossy has put in the ‘hard-yards’ and improved that aspect of his game.

Running the lines today are the dependable Andy Halliday along with Adrian Holmes.

Whilst the quartet of officials is completed by Anthony Taylor, before he takes charge of Arsenal v Manchester United tomorrow, which you can of course follow on YATR Refcam.

Everyone at YATR is hoping for a top quality display of refereeing today, and we hope the game goes smoothly…

at 2015-10-03 12:09:11

Hi everyone, and welcome to the first of today’s live Refcam commentary matches…

…and it is yet another top-quality game on offer as one of the season’s surprise packages, Crystal Palace, host West Bromwich Albion at Selhurst Park.

Following the international break Palace manager, Alan Pardew, will be delighted to be able to select from a squad with no new injury concerns, hoping that his team will continue their fantastic start to a season which sees them currently sitting in 7th place in the Premier League.

The form of Dwight Gayle is particularly delighting his boss, and the striker will be looking to add to his four-goal tally.

Standing in the Eagles’ flightpath today is a West Bromwich Albion side which is led, of course, by the former Palace manager Tony Pulis.

Since moving to West Brom the entertaining Baggies’ boss has continued the good work he did with his former employees.

Whilst their home form is a little erratic, West Brom are excellent when playing away. Indeed, they remain unbeaten on their travels in the Premier League this season.

Now that Saido Berahino appears to have placed his problems with the club owner to one side, WBA supporters are, once again, seeing a highly dangerous striker terrorise defences.

So who will triumph in this battle today?

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