Crystal Palace v Manchester United

Crystal Palace v Manchester United

Commentary By: Guy Beale

FINAL SCORE: 1 - 2



Full Time Summary

GB at 2016-12-14 23:43:59

#CRYMUN Here are the main talking points in respect to the officials in this game:

  • The officials worked together to get a record 5 key match decisions wrong for me:
  • A two footed challenge with excessive force by Marcos Rojo (MU 5) escapes a Red Card
  • Zlatan Ibrahimovic (MU 9) deliberately propels the ball with his arm towards Paul Pogba (MU 6) to assist with the first United goal
  • Paul Pogba (MU 6) receives the ball in an offside position to score
  • Joe Ledley (CP 16) deliberately handles the ball instead of heading it in the Palace penalty area which should have resulted in a penalty for United.
  • Juan Mata (MU 8) has a perfectly good goal chalked off for offside

This was the weakest performance I have seen at this level from a team of officials for a very long time, but it is important to try to analyse why these things happen. Well for me, the very slow tempo of the game in the opening 20 minutes, lulled Craig Pawson and his colleagues into a false sense of security. It was the 20th minute actually when the first strong challenge went in as Lee Chung-Yong (CP 14) caught Eric Bailly (MU3) with a fast glancing contact with his boot just under the knee, which the referee decided to “manage”, rather than show a yellow card for a reckless challenge. At this point may be I also should bring the 4th Official into the list of those guilty of incompetence, as he definitely had the better view of the contact from much closer and should really been talking to the referee to help him with that one.

This failure to react positively to the change in tempo of the game came to a head eighteen minutes later, when the first “big call” went begging as Marcos Rojo (MU 5) amazingly commits another dangerous challenge with excessive force as he jumps in two footed at his opponent and  escapes a Red Card. As I said in my blog, what also amazes me was not that the same player did what he did in another recent game, but that once again he was not sent off. I just don’t understand why the lessons weren’t learnt from when Michael Oliver made the same mistake – don’t they talk about these things between themselves? As this incident unfolded in this game the referee was clearly getting “advice” over his headset as he walked towards the player, one can only presume it was from the nearest Assistant, but whoever was talking to the man in the middle, he also let him down badly as that was a nailed on Red card offence.

Then came the Manchester United first goal which should have been ruled out on two counts. A handball was missed by the referee due to his poor position, but that explanation cannot be used for the Assistant who was dead in line but failed to signal for Pogba being in an offside position when the ball was played towards him.

Just when the officials need to regroup after the interval, unfortunately things failed to get any better in the 66th minute when a clear handball by Joe Ledley (CP 16) was “missed” by the referee again (poor positioning again?), which should have resulted in a penalty for Manchester United. By now, the body language of the referee begins to look like he wishes his Christmas could come early!

Almost whilst the United players were still complaining about the missed handball, Juan Mata (MU 8) had a perfectly good goal ruled out for offside for me as the only part of his body ahead of the second rearmost defender looked like it was his elbow – which does not count!

So it all comes back to the need to be focussed and alert for the whole 90 minutes and be ready for when the big call comes along to start with – and then get it right of course.

Craig Pawson on the whole has been maturing well and growing in confidence and ability on the Premier League, but this was unfortunately just “one of those nights” which did not go at all well for him. We have all had them, but the main thing is to bounce back with confidence and to reflect openly and honestly on the decisions he got wrong.

As for the Assistants, well neither of them really came out of that game with much credit from me either I am afraid.


More RefCam to come

GB at 2016-12-14 22:54:15

#CRYMUN My final summary will follow very shortly.

I trust you have enjoyed our RefCam coverage tonight, and please keep your views coming on Twitter @youaretheref or email us at Info@you-are-the-ref.com

We will be back again at the weekend with 4 more top quality games to review from the referee’s perspective:

17.12.16 West Bromwich Albion v Manchester United KO 17.30 pm

18.12.16 Bournemouth v Southampton KO 13.30 pm

18.12.16 Manchester City v Arsenal KO 16.00 pm

19.12.16 Everton v Liverpool KO 20.00 pm

A full list of forthcoming RefCam games is always available at:  http://you-are-the-ref.com/ref-cam/


90+4

GB at 2016-12-14 22:53:31

Full Time

 


90+3

GB at 2016-12-14 22:52:27

#CRYMUN Well at least we have seen consistent teamwork from the officials as they all got at least one key match decision wrong!


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:49:54

minimum of 4 added minutes


GB at 2016-12-14 22:47:16

#CRYMUN Alan Pardew's press conference could be interesting after this one!


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:46:11

GOAL! Zlatan Ibrahimovic (MU 9) - rubs the salt into Palace!

Crystal Palace 1 v 2 Manchester United

 


GB at 2016-12-14 22:44:18

Latest Tweet:

I think someone has been looking at my draft final notes!

@youaretheref Pawson has had an absolute shocker, all started when he failed to send Rojo off. Awful

Keep them coming please


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:42:06

I am afraid that nothing the referee has done so far has given me the confidence that the players will be at all concerned about how they close this game out as they seem to be happy to commit foul after foul.

Yellow Card Marcus Rashford (MU 19) reckless challenge


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:35:33

Yellow Card Damien Delaney (CP 27) reckless challenge as Pawson tries to get this one back into his grasp!


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:34:41

Yellow Card Damien Delaney (CP 27) reckless challenge as Pawson tries to get this one back into his grasp!


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:33:00

Craig Pawson and his fellow officials night seems to be getting worse and worse!

First the referee misses a clear handball which should have been a penalty to United then Adrian Holmes joins the catalog of error by chalking off a perfectly good goal by  Juan Mata (MU 8) for offside.

Yellow Card for Paul Pogba (MU 6) for dissent in the aftermath but you can understand his frustration!

 

 

 

 


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:26:37

GOAL! James McArthur (CP 18)

Crystal Place 1 v 1 Manchester United

Game on!


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:25:38

Marcos Rojo (MU 5) commits another foul from behind this time which is only careless - he needs to be very careful though.


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:23:43

Once again the referee does not seem happy with the position he chose for that last corner and is switching around as the ball comes across. It was a movement like that which led to him getting such a poor view which meant he missed the hand ball for the first goal.


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:20:18

Pawson is at least showing confidence in playing a few advantages for United, but I still think he will need to start thinking safety first soon the longer this game goes on.


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:17:17

The intensity of the challenges (particularly from Place who feel hard done by) is likely to increase as the game progresses, o the referee cannot afford to take any chances in this one now.


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:14:46

First talking point of the second half a climb on the back of an attacker by a United defender goes un-noticed just before a correct free kick for a high foot which made contact with an opponent. Positioning around the penalty area is going to be so important now for this referee not to miss another infringement.


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:11:37

It may seem insignificant against some of the other major talking points from the officials perspective - but I can't let the opportunity go by to note how irritating and unnecessary it is again to see a goalkeeper all in black when the officials are all in black as well! (rant over).


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GB at 2016-12-14 22:09:15

It will be interesting to study the referee's body language in this second half to see if he can put those earlier incidents out of his mind and concentrate on the next 40 minutes.


GB at 2016-12-14 22:06:11

Keep those Tweets coming in - I think this could have more to come yet!


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at 2016-12-14 22:04:44

Second half underway

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Halftime Summary

GB at 2016-12-14 22:02:17

#CRYMUN

A very quiet start to the game with me bleating on about how the officials needed to stay focused, ended up with two major talking points.

The first one was the two footed tackle by Marcos Rojo (MU 5) which once again only resulted in a yellow card. When a player leaves the ground like that with boot feet out in front of him like weapons, he has no control of where he makes contact! I am frankly no only staggered that the player did it again after getting away with it last week – but also that another top flite referee has deemed that as not worthy of a RED Card? Have the referees not all discussed the missed Red card by Michael Oliver last week – that was another tackle with excessive force which endangered the opponent’s safety which got away.

Then we had a goal which should have been disallowed on two counts – deliberate hand ball in the build up to a player in an offside position. The final adjustment of position by the referee prevented him from seeing the arm strike the ball, but there can be no excuse for Simon Long missing the offside.

The second half needs to see an improvement from the officials.


GB at 2016-12-14 21:52:10

Alan Pardew would have been hoping for a better rub of the green before the start tonight, following his team suffering from two poor decisions at the weekend – but he may have got the sticky end of the stick again tonight already!

At the weekend, the late denial of a penalty when Benteke was clearly tripped by Huddlestone would normally have been the main talking point, but even this was overshadowed by yet another blatant act of simulation (this time by Hull City player Robert Snodgrass), which conned the referee. This topic was given a great airing in the first half of this week’s Ref Show by former Premier league Referee Roger Dilkes and ex-player David Hurst, and is well worth catching up with here: 12th Dec 16 - Ref Show

The Video Referee is here ……… at last! But what is the best way to make it work smoothly? Here at YATR we have come out today to say that whilst the initiative is long overdue, the delivery process needs serious consideration before it is officially rolled out - Video latest: Right idea. Wrong way of doing it?

Next Monday’s edition already has plenty of discussion points for our weekly panel to review and all the previous editions are available here Ref Show

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45+1

GB at 2016-12-14 21:50:11

#CRYMUN GOAL! by Paul Pogba (MU 6) surrounded by controversy!

Zlatan Ibrahimovic (MU 9) appeared to knock the ball forward with his arm to set up Pogba who himself was standing in an offside position!

Half Time


45+1

GB at 2016-12-14 21:46:36

Yellow Card for Martin Kelly (CP 34) - reckless challenge as he steps on his opponent from behind


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:45:42

Minimum of 1 added minute


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:43:45

Going back to the Marcos Rojo (MU 5) yellow card, referees need to be recognising the difference between careless and reckless challenges which endanger the safety of the players - regardless of how little physical contact there has been in the game so far, that would have caused serious injury if the United player had connected.


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:41:23

#CYRMUN Yellow CardYellow Card for Marcos Rojo (MU 5) following an almost carbon copy of the foul he got away without a red card last week. Once again that was very lucky for the United player not to be seeing Red again. He had no control as he left the ground with both feet. It was clear that the referee was getting advice over his headset before choosing the yellow card, but who ever was giving it to him was weak as well!


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:37:22

Craig Pawson adjusted his position quickly at the end of that corner and could be seen talking to the players as the ball came across to remind them not to start holding and pushing in the area


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:34:53

Just a word then from the referee as Marcos Rojo (MU 5) clatters into the back of his opponent. No surprises with that one!


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:33:11

The referee found himself needing the keep backing off to keep out of the way of the players then in the left channel. He needs to reflect on that and reconsider his position if Palace persistently use that area to press into the United penalty area.


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at 2016-12-14 21:28:46

No arguments about that hand ball as the United player clearly moves his arm towards the ball.

All of a sudden the game has started to come to life and Craig Pawson is doing the right thing to increase his profile with a firm hand and warm smile!


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at 2016-12-14 21:26:56

Another advantage played for United then by the referee, but he might need to consider the other option soon so keep a grip


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:24:43

#CRYMUN Needs to be seen to react to the slight rise in tempo as soon as it comes in order to maintain control of this one which would not take much to come to life with one missed opportunity for the referee to stamp his authority onto the game.


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:22:30

Composure shown then again by the referee as Lee Chung-Yong (CP 14) catches Eric Bailly (MU3) but I must say if he had seen it from the other angle I would have expected him to have reacted stronger and even shown the first yellow. That was the type of thing I thought might happen after such a slow start, which referees need to be aware of and act accordingly.


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:19:30

Once again the referee's close positioning allows him to sell only the 3rd foul of the game in a calm controlled manner. Picking off the straight forward fouls will be important now as the tempo will start to rise soon so the referee cannot afford to relax after a slow start


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:17:46

This may be a very slow start for the officials but Craig is doing well to stay close to play and alert so that he can communicate with the players as he lets the players just get on with their jobs


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:15:48

A delayed advantage signal shows the referee's alertness just to let the players know he saw that strong challenge but is keen to keep this game flowing


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:13:24

First free kick is for holding. Just a little one but the referee did well to step in to let everyone know he is on the field of play.


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:11:35

#CRYMUN The Officials will be very happy with the opening ten minutes with not a sign of even a careless challenge yet!


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:09:05

98% possession by the Away side is making this a very easy start for the officials - they need to stay focussed already though


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:06:39

Good awareness shown there by the referee to spot the injured player going down off the ball. Always goes down well with the players!


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:05:33

Craig Pawson often has a deceptive running style because of his height but he possesses a real turn of pace which he will need to demonstrate in this game


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GB at 2016-12-14 21:02:42

Good correct tight not offside call to start the night


GB at 2016-12-14 21:01:05

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kick off

GB at 2016-12-14 21:00:39

Man United kick off


at 2016-12-14 20:56:03

Not long to go now as the players and officials prepare to leave the tunnel


Officials

at 2016-12-14 20:53:32

#CRYMUN Craig Pawson steps up for his second EPL middle in 4 days and at least will not to be dragging any baggage with him from the six-pointer between Swansea and Sunderland on Saturday.

Improvements in his fitness and movement this season have been noted by others here at YATR and I think this game could be set up for him to further enhance his reputation this season. Fitness has always been a major attribute in this referee’s ability, but an occasional positioning error has contributed to some poor decisions which have affected his consistency in the past. With a sound performance under his belt on Saturday, I am sure he will be really looking forward to the electrifying atmosphere there always is when Manchester United rock up at Selhurst Park!

An average of 3.3 yellow cards per game and just one Red in the 10 EPL games he has controlled this season is not too shabby at all, and he is maturing nicely on the Select Group list since his arrival just 3 years ago for the 2013/14 season.


Officials

GB at 2016-12-14 20:46:26

# CRYMUN Craig Pawson steps up for his second EPL middle in 4 days and at least will not to be dragging any baggage with him from the six-pointer between Swansea and Sunderland on Saturday.

Improvements in his fitness and movement this season have been noted by others here at YATR and I think this game could be set up for him to further enhance his reputation this season. Fitness has always been a major attribute in this referee’s ability, but an occasional positioning error has contributed to some poor decisions which have affected his consistency in the past. With a sound performance under his belt on Saturday, I am sure he will be really looking forward to the electrifying atmosphere there always is when Manchester United rock up at Selhurst Park!

An average of 3.3 yellow cards per game and just one Red in the 10 EPL games he has controlled this season is not too shabby at all, and he is maturing nicely on the Select Group list since his arrival just 3 years ago for the 2013/14 season.


Officials

GB at 2016-12-14 20:45:20

Today’s officials are:

Referee: Craig Pawson

AR 1: Simon Long (Technical Area)

AR2: Adrian Holmes

4th Official: Stuart Attwell


Here are the starting line-ups for this game:

GB at 2016-12-14 20:44:54

Crystal Palace

Crystal Palace

13     Wayne Hennessey (CP 13)

2       Joel Ward (CP 2)

4       Mathieu Flamini (CP 4)

6       Scott Dann (CP 6)

7       Yohan Cabaye (CP 7)

11     Wilfried Zaha (CP 11)

14     Lee Chung-Yong (CP 14)

17     Christian Benteke (CP 17)

18     James McArthur (CP 18)

27     Damien Delaney (CP 27)

34     Martin Kelly (CP 34)

          Substitutes

1       Julián Speroni (CP 1)

9       Fraizer Campbell (CP 9)

10     Andros Townsend (CP 10)

16     Joe Ledley (CP 16)

19     Ezekiel Fryers (CP 19)

43     Noor Husin (CP 43)

46     Aaron Wan-Bissaka (CP 46)

Manchester United

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1              David De Gea (MU 1)

3              Eric Bailly (MU3)

4              Phil Jones (MU 4)

5              Marcos Rojo (MU 5)

6              Paul Pogba (MU 6)

8              Juan Mata (MU 8)

9              Zlatan Ibrahimovic (MU 9)

10           Wayne Rooney (MU 10)

16           Michael Carrick (MU 16)

17           Daley Blind (MU 17)

21           Ander Herrera (MU 21)

                Substitutes

14           Jesse Lingard MU 14)

18           Ashley Young (MU 18)

19           Marcus Rashford (MU 19)

20           Sergio Romero (MU 20)

27           Marouane Fellaini (MU 27)

31           Bastian Schweinsteiger (MU 31)

36           Matteo Darmian (MU 36)


Pre Match

GB at 2016-12-14 20:43:14

Recent events have contrived to set this fixture up to be a real humdinger! Two decent back-to-back results for the Eagles seems to have stopped the rot temporarily, and at least diverted talk about the managerial Taxi being called to Selhurst Park before Christmas. There is still a long way to go of course, but 10 goals in their last 3 Premier League games is 7 more than their visitors have managed to muster, so they certainly won’t be looking at this one with any trepidation and should be just in the mood to get their own back for last season’s FA Cup Final defeat.

At lot of water has flowed under the bridge at Untied since 21st May though, and Jose Mourinho himself is enjoying a couple of weeks out of the headlines, as he continues to oil the stabilisers on the United bike after the earlier wobbles this term, which cumulated in the 4 nil trashing by Chelsea in October. Six games without a loss in the League since then may have only provided 10 points, but it has definitely been a step in the right direction for the often beleaguered Portuguese manager this season.

So I get the feeling something might have to give tonight with the prospect of a really open exciting contest, which appointed official may be able to afford to take a backward step and conduct from a distance.


Pre Match

GB at 2016-12-14 20:41:34

Welcome to this evening’s RefCam coverage of the Premier League game between Crystal Palace and Manchester United.
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