Crystal Palace v Liverpool
Commentary By: Guy Beale
FINAL SCORE: 1 - 2
GB at 2016-03-06 16:45:26
There is no doubt where my summary has to start – was it a penalty or not? Or maybe I should begin with by asking who gave it?
Well for me I think there can be no doubt that Assistant Scott Ledger must have given it and it has taken the third camera angle from behind the goal-line to convince me that he has made an excellent decision!
From where the referee was, positioned, which was not exactly poorly placed, it must have looked like simulation, but there is no doubt to me now that the knee of Damien Delaney (CP 27) has clipped the left foot of Christian Benteke (L 9), causing him to fall to the ground. So, stand up and be counted Scott Ledger for one of the most courageous and best decisions I have seen from an Assistant referee this season! And also, fair play to Andre manager for completing the excellent teamwork and giving the correct penalty decision.
Even before that big finish, that was the best performance I have seen from Andre Marriner for a long time, and getting that big call right at the end put the icing on the cake!
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GB at 2016-03-06 16:25:16
My final summary will follow very shortly.
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GB at 2016-03-06 16:24:26
Crystal Palace 1 v 2 Liverpool
GB at 2016-03-06 16:23:36
What a finish to the game and it was obviously Scott Ledgers decision to give the penalty.
Christian Benteke (L 9)
Crystal Palace 1 v 2 Liverpool
GB at 2016-03-06 16:20:53
GB at 2016-03-06 16:19:55
The calm body language has returned to the referee
GB at 2016-03-06 16:17:30
Andre was very close to that foul near the half-way line to sell his decision not to dish out anything except a free kick.
minimum of 4 added minutes to be played
GB at 2016-03-06 16:14:24
Alberto Moreno (L 18) for a reckless challenge.
The referee definitely showing that he had lost his patience with the player then. Sometimes you just have to show some emotion to get your point across to all the players as to exactly what your mood is.
GB at 2016-03-06 16:11:58
Going back to the sending off of James Milner (L 7), that was the second nailed on second yellow we have seen on RefCam this weekend following the one in the Spurs v Arsenal game yesterday. As we now know, there should have been another in that game as well though, so I hope Andre does not reflect that as well in the last 5 minutes.
GB at 2016-03-06 16:07:58
Once again, Lee Betts showing some quality flag work with a neat quick signal for a foul without being too exaggerated. Nice work.
GB at 2016-03-06 16:06:18
I just don’t understand why the referee did not give a foul then when Yannick Bolasie (CP 10) was blocked by the Liverpool defender. As I always say to the referees I coach, if everyone expects a free kick JUST GIVE IT. There is no point being the only person on the ground who thinks it is not a foul – manage the expectations of the players!
GB at 2016-03-06 16:02:25
Andre seems to have found another gear and is using his powerful legs well to inject the odd quick sprint off the mark now when required.
GB at 2016-03-06 16:00:42
looking at the replays of the Palace goal, it was good to see the referee expecting the unexpected and focussing right in as soon as the goalkeeper fluffed his clearance.
GB at 2016-03-06 15:59:28
Roberto Firmino (L 11)
Crystal Palace 1 v 1 Liverpool
GB at 2016-03-06 15:58:03
Excellent Throw-in signal then by Lee Betts – very neat and sharp with legs together and flag held out for just the right length of time! Keep an eye on him from now on.
GB at 2016-03-06 15:55:42
There was a great camera shot then with confirms how calm Andre is looking out there as the Liverpool players get frustrated with the events unfolding in this game
GB at 2016-03-06 15:54:25
Well that is the first decision I must disagree with today, for me the Liverpool player was impeding the Palace player and therefore should have been penalised for holding
GB at 2016-03-06 15:51:25
The referee’s body language has remained calm and purposeful as the game has progressed. I still think he could afford to be a little more sharp and dynamic at times, but this game has always been about “control” so far, and there is no doubt that has been very evident.
GB at 2016-03-06 15:49:16
+ for James Milner (L 7) =
Spot on decision! Clear reckless foul !
Very well done Andre, that’s what has been lacking from some of your performances in the past!
GB at 2016-03-06 15:45:02
Andre clearly wants to keep this game moving as the players are showing a high level of respect towards him at the moment, but he needs to be careful not to take chances, like that delayed whistle when the expectation is for a free kick for hlding straight away
GB at 2016-03-06 15:43:25
The referee used the “old con-trick” then as he showed an advantage signal to appease the players, when in fact there did not look to be a foul anyway. We have all done it!
GB at 2016-03-06 15:41:29
good recognition again by Andre – he has not been tempted to give free kicks for fair challenges just to keep the peace in this game
GB at 2016-03-06 15:40:00
Good shot of the referee keeping “one eye” on the ball in the goalkeepers hands then as he moved up the field of play. I always like to see referees demonstrating the basics like that at this level rather than turning their back on the ball and running away relying on their assistants to tell them about any infringements over the communications system
GB at 2016-03-06 15:36:01
Joe Ledley (CP 28)
Crystal Palace 1 v 0 Liverpool
GB at 2016-03-06 15:35:12
In the first half the camera shots of the placement of the ball for the Liverpool corners from the left wing showed that the ball was always positioned in accordance with law with the ball just needing to lip the corner arc to be deemed as inside of it. Palace had the ball with a lot more of the ball inside of the arc.
GB at 2016-03-06 15:31:33
Second half is underway
GB at 2016-03-06 15:26:48
I hope I don’t put the “mockers on” Andre today, but I must say that has been a solid first half from the referee so far. His recognition of fair and unfair challenges has been accurate and consistent, so the players have known where they stand. He has stepped in with the appropriate disciplinary sanctions when required and also shown some good man-management skills when he has had the opportunity to issue stern public verbal warnings to the players instead. His tactics have proved to be very effective in this game so far with the players generally responding to his tolerance level. That said, there are a few competitors today whom I am sure are capable of pushing the referee right to the limit, so I really hope Andre can remain focussed and not drop his guard and let his control slip by not being strong enough when the big decisions come along.
So far so good though, so keep it up please Andre.
Both the assistants seem to be mirroring the referee’s tolerance level which has enhanced the overall teamwork in the first half. All off-sides have been credible so far.
GB at 2016-03-06 15:25:18
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GB at 2016-03-06 15:16:55
Crystal Palace 0 v 0 Liverpool
GB at 2016-03-06 15:16:04
one minute of added time
GB at 2016-03-06 15:14:50
The referee has been consistent with the grappling at corners today which is always good to see
GB at 2016-03-06 15:11:28
James Milner (L 7) – reckless challenge
That was the type of challenge which always looked like it was about to happen as I alluded to in my previous post
GB at 2016-03-06 15:07:53
The free kicks are really coming thick and fast again now and the referee will need to consider issuing someone with a yellow card “for the team”, if he is going to stop the game becoming stop start all the time as the players feel comfortable to keep challenging unfairly
GB at 2016-03-06 15:05:57
I am not surprised to see the referee starting to lay the law down again. He has worked hard to gain control of this game but he will need to guard against letting it slip away if he becomes too lenient.
GB at 2016-03-06 15:03:23
Well done for that pro-active advice to the members of the wall as well – Andre is really trying to work with the players today
GB at 2016-03-06 15:02:23
The referee did well then just moving a little closer to the play before giving that important free kick
GB at 2016-03-06 15:00:13
Different styles for using the spray are also evident amongst our top referees. I like the way Mike Dean does it – he marches out the 9.15 metres then strays and tells the players to get behind the line. Andre’s method then was to coax the players back first the draw the line in front of them.
GB at 2016-03-06 14:57:50
The referee has generally maintained a credible distance from the ball in this game so far, even to the extent of being a little too close at times as he has often needed to adjust his potions to keep out of the way. Getting the balance between being too close and retaining the best angle is very important for all referees
GB at 2016-03-06 14:52:57
Andre’s pro-active start in the first 10 minutes has helped him gain the players confidence for the next 20 minutes. He can now either keep the rope loose or reign it in now the game has started to settle down
GB at 2016-03-06 14:50:58
“without reaching to his pocket again”
GB at 2016-03-06 14:50:17
Good man management demonstrated by the referee then. Following the two quick yellows a few minutes ago he took the importunity to “manage” the player following the foul challenge with reaching for his pocket again and suddenly becoming the centre off attention for no reason
GB at 2016-03-06 14:48:30
Good flag by Lee Betts – there was every expectation that the player must be penalised for off-side then
GB at 2016-03-06 14:47:24
To be fair to Andre, when he is on the move today he looks very nimble
GB at 2016-03-06 14:45:53
Certainly not even the slightest chance of that being deliberate hand ball!
GB at 2016-03-06 14:44:48
I mentioned last week how Michael Oliver likes to signal for all throw-ins. Today’s referee is from the other camp and only signals when he thinks it is required to enhance communication – which style do you prefer?
GB at 2016-03-06 14:42:41
Scott Dann (CP 6) for unsporting behaviour as he stops the Liverpool player’s progress. The referee is really stamping his authority on this game well so far.
GB at 2016-03-06 14:41:16
Jordan Henderson (L 14) for a reckless challenge, that was a good decision by the referee and was not surprising by the way Andre has started today
GB at 2016-03-06 14:40:01
There is just something about Andre’s body language these days though which I think he could improve. He seems to be walking around instead of being on his toes
GB at 2016-03-06 14:38:34
The referee seems to be alert in these opening minutes and is setting his stall out to react to all the careless challenges
GB at 2016-03-06 14:37:01
very interesting challenge there right in front of Scott Ledger. Both he and the referee saw no offence so the teamwork was sound between them. So important for the assistant to be on the same page as the referee early in the game
GB at 2016-03-06 14:34:32
Andre given an early chance to set his tolerance level with that first foul challenge – he will need to be consistent from here on, which has not always been his strong point!
GB at 2016-03-06 14:33:12
well timed run by the Palace offender and a good non-flag by Scott Ledger
GB at 2016-03-06 14:31:20
AR1: Lee Betts (LB) is patrolling the touchline in front of the technical areas.
GB at 2016-03-06 14:30:48
GB at 2016-03-06 14:29:34
Not long to go now as the players and officials prepare to leave the tunnel
GB at 2016-03-06 14:24:05
Today’s officials are:
Referee: Andre Marriner (AM)
AR1: Lee Betts (LB)
AR2: Scott Ledger (SL)
4th Official: Robert Madley (RM)
Andre Marriner takes charge of his 18th EPL game today, fresh from the high octane environment of The Boleyn Ground on Wednesday night, when he adjudicated in the contest which saw Tottenham Hotspur fail to take their chance to rise to the top of the table.
As with a few of his colleagues over the last couple of seasons, it has been consistency which has let today’s referee down at times. On his day, I have seen Andre put in some of the best performances amongst his colleagues, packed with bags of energy, confidence and decisiveness, but at other times he has looked lethargic and complacent when the big decisions have come along. So it remains to be seen which Andre Marriner is going to turn up for this game. I truly hope it is the same one we saw on Wednesday night, so we get to see another decent shift put in this afternoon.
Marriner’s frame of mind should have been buoyed by the breaking news this week that he has been selected as part of Mark Clattenburg’s crew as AAR2, for the forthcoming European Championship Finals in June this year.
For those of you who have not seen the full teams of officials ratified this week by UEFA, here they are:
Referee Martin Atkinson
AR1 Michael Mullarkey
AR2 Stephen Child
AR3 Gary Beswick
AAR1 Michael Oliver
AAR2 Craig Pawson
Referee Mark Clattenburg
AR1 Simon Beck
AR2 Jake Collin
AR3 Stuart Burt
AAR1 Anthony Taylor
AAR2 Andre Marriner
It must be said though, that with only 8 FIFA Referees at the moment, including one who has yet to referee an international (Robert Madley), and one who has not refereed anything for since last May (Lee Probert), there were probably a lot of chickens being counted before these lists were published!
GB at 2016-03-06 14:20:31
Alex McCarthy (CP 12)
Joel Ward (CP 2)
Scott Dann (CP 6)
Yohan Cabaye (CP 7)
Yannick Bolasie (CP 10)
Wilfried Zaha (CP 11)
Mile Jedinak (CP 15)
Pape N’Diaye Souar (CP 23)
Emmanuel Adebayor (CP 25)
Damien Delaney (CP 27)
Joe Ledley (CP 28)
Julián Speroni (CP 1)
Lee Chung-Yong (CP 14)
Dwight Gayle (CP 16)
Jordon Mutch (CP 22)
Bakary Sako (CP 26)
Marouane Chamakh (CP 29)
Martin Kelly (CP 34)
Simon Mignolet (L 22)
Dejan Lovren (L 6)
James Milner (L 7)
Roberto Firmino (L 11)
Jordan Henderson (L 14)
Mamadou Sakho (L 17)
Alberto Moreno (L 18)
Adam Lallana (L 20)
Emre Can (L 23)
Divock Origi (L 27)
Jon Flanagan (L 38)
Nathaniel Clyne (L 2)
Kolo Touré (L 4)
Christian Benteke (L 9)
Philippe Coutinho (L 10)
Daniel Sturridge (L 15)
Joe Allen (L 24)
Danny Ward (L 52)
GB at 2016-03-06 14:17:50
Crystal Palace have not won a game in the EPL in their last 11 attempts since the 19th December last year, and with the arrival of Liverpool with their tails up following their humiliation of Manchester City midweek, the omens do not look good for Eagles this afternoon!
That said, with this season’s competition turning out to be one of the least predictable for a very long time, I would really not like to hazard a guess as to how this one might pan out.
GB at 2016-03-06 14:17:12
Welcome to this lunch time RefCam coverage of the Premier League game between Crystal Palace and Liverpool
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