Aston Villa v West Bromwich Albion
Commentary By: Guy Beale
FINAL SCORE: 2 - 0
GB at 2015-03-07 20:58:48
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GB at 2015-03-07 20:57:44
Not for the first time this season I seemed to have “put the mockers on the referee” again in the final quarter of the game as the big decisions came along right at the end.
That said, I thought the referee showed strength at the end by having the courage to give what he saw, even if I did not necessarily agree with the second double yellow card.
The first challenge which led to the first double yellow would have been a caution at any time because if a player confronts an opponent with both feet even just slightly off the ground, he leaves himself open to the possibility of receiving a caution. That’s what he got, but it just happened to be his second one. I can accept that this could well be one which some will find a little harsh, but I think the referee was trying to be strong.
I cannot say am quite so keen to back him up on the second double yellow though. Surely he could have managed that one at that stage of the game? If referees want to make a stand against simulation, there have been far better occasions in far more critical positions on the field of play or at far more critical stages of a game than this one to start with. Sorry Anthony, but I do think you over-reacted on this one and even though you were very well placed to see what happened, I think there may well have been the slightest of touches on Jack Grealish (AV 40) which caused him to claim he was fouled. OK, he made a meal of it – but a second caution for that at that stage – really? Not for me.
Pity really, because if you take those two incidents out of the game there is not much left for anyone to criticise the referee on.
I think it is important to put this performance into perspective. Villa v WBA in the quarter final of the FA Cup was never going to be easy – but for me I think Anthony Taylor made it look like it was “no problem for him” most of the time.
It could be argued that he went looking for trouble at the end, but as we get into the business end of the season let’s hope all our top officials can start to stand up and be counted and be remembered for all the right reasons not the controversial ones.
It was a relatively quiet game for the rest of the Referee’s team and I felt they all contributed responsibly only when they were required to.
I must finish by saying how disgusting it was to see those scenes at the end and I am sure they will get just as much of the headlines tomorrow as the two red cards. It has long been a criminal offence to go onto a football field like that and there are bound to be ramifications for the home club because of what happened.
GB at 2015-03-07 20:26:42
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GB at 2015-03-07 20:26:21
Full time summary to follow
GB at 2015-03-07 20:26:02
Aston Villa 2 – 0 WBA
GB at 2015-03-07 20:25:30
Leandro Bacuna (AV 7)
consistent for holding again
GB at 2015-03-07 20:24:26
Important for officials to stay calm in these cercumstances
GB at 2015-03-07 20:23:56
This is dreadful for true Villa fans
GB at 2015-03-07 20:22:25
+ = again for Jack Grealish (AV 40)
GB at 2015-03-07 20:19:53
minimum of 5 minutes of added time – that shows that AT has courage!
GB at 2015-03-07 20:18:43
Good to see AT pressing the play right into the corner as effectively at the end of the game as he did at the start
GB at 2015-03-07 20:17:55
The officials still have some work to do in this game to make sure that they do not spoil all the efforts they have put in so far
GB at 2015-03-07 20:16:12
Nice to see Twitter waking up!
I will comment more on that second yellow at the end of the game – but just for now I will say what I just said “second yellow” -that was not a straight red and AT did not give him a straight red
GB at 2015-03-07 20:14:29
2 – 0
S Sinclair (AV 9)
GB at 2015-03-07 20:13:18
I could not see from the TV pictures if DE was able to help AT with that second yellow card but I would be very surprised if he did not have any say in the decision to issue a second caution
GB at 2015-03-07 20:11:58
AT clearly saw the WBA player going into that challenge with two feet and that was a nailed on yellow card for me. He could not even see that the player had made contact with the Villa players knee and not the ball from where he was – but sometimes you make your own luck and he deserved that one.
GB at 2015-03-07 20:09:39
+ = for Claudio Yacob (WBA 5)
GB at 2015-03-07 20:08:40
I have to say that unlike some of the other games I have commented on this season for RefCam – I have a lot better feeling tonight that the officials are going to be able to close this one out to a satisfactory conclution
GB at 2015-03-07 20:07:11
A caution for unsporting behaviour must be issued when a player holds an opponent to prevent him gaining possession of the ball or taking up an advantageous position
GB at 2015-03-07 20:06:28
mandatory card for Claudio Yacob (WBA 5)
GB at 2015-03-07 20:04:50
I really hope that the officials can get through the last 15 minutes without having an effect on the result
GB at 2015-03-07 19:59:16
Good off side there by DC. It seemed to be late to be picked up by AT but I am sure the coms kit kicked in to let him know the flag was up as the player returned from an off side position to become involved in the active play
GB at 2015-03-07 19:57:40
First indication of time-wasting there from Villa. I would like to see the referee having a “quiet word” at least with the Villa captain soon before this tactic becomes a problem
GB at 2015-03-07 19:55:22
All the officials will need to be alert to how the substitutions (which are sure to come soon) could effect the this winner takes all encounter
GB at 2015-03-07 19:53:27
1st 15 minutes of the second half gone and AT is “on fireE for me at the moment
GB at 2015-03-07 19:52:36
Hope the typos did not mess up the meaning in my last post – AT was very alert to the challenge and did not miss it – just wanted to praise DE for his part in flagging when the offence was in his vicinity – JUST IN CASE the referee had not seen it as he did
GB at 2015-03-07 19:49:57
Great teamwork there as DE was up with his flag immediately for that poorly times challenge that AT may has missed if he had not kept a trailing eye on the events. for Gabriel Agbonlahor (AV 11) fully justified for the reckless challenge
GB at 2015-03-07 19:47:38
I do not expect Joleon Lescott (WBA 6) to be criticising the referee for anything for the rest of the game unless he wants to be reminded of that mistake by him! Really should have scored then
GB at 2015-03-07 19:45:15
I expect to see AT showing what he is made of from here on in and this is where he will benefit from his decisions not to go steaming in and dishing out yellow cards in the first half for “minor” offences
GB at 2015-03-07 19:43:45
for Craig Dawson (WBA 25)
Why am I not surprised?
That was very close to being a very naughty one but the boot was just about kept down enough
GB at 2015-03-07 19:42:26
Supper positioning again by AT shadowing the players as the ball goes into the penalty area. I am sure his is determined not to let a penalty “get away” tonight after Tuesday
GB at 2015-03-07 19:40:22
1 – 0
Fabian Delph (AV 16)
Now we have a game on
GB at 2015-03-07 19:38:57
He is not letting anything go as the challenges get a bit tastier, but sooner or later he will need to start taking disciplinary action for lees than he has let go so far, just to stop the really bad challenge going in
GB at 2015-03-07 19:37:26
That was precisely the type of statement I was hoping AT would make at the start of the second half
GB at 2015-03-07 19:36:16
No question of the Villa player looking for a foul there but once again AT was breathing down his neck
GB at 2015-03-07 19:34:34
Off we go again with the home team to KO
GB at 2015-03-07 19:33:57
Comment on Twitter from Carole:
Crowd howling at every tackle/challenge/decision at #AVFCvWBA.Can sense ref vulnerable following recent debacles Need videore
It is all about managing the event not the occasion Carole. So far I think AT has done OK without a video ref – but I fully appreciate where you are coming from and there will be Video refs one day I am sure.
GB at 2015-03-07 19:28:05
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GB at 2015-03-07 19:27:00
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GB at 2015-03-07 19:26:37
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GB at 2015-03-07 19:26:04
Half Time Summary:
So far Anthony Taylor has looked very comfortable in this game and has taken some risks by managing a few challenges without resorting to “cheap yellow cards”. Personally I think this has worked for him in the first half but I would not expect him to be able to maintain such a low key approach to some of the fouls we have seen so far in the second half.
Tempo management and consistency is the name of the game for top class officials so he will need all his experience in the second half so as not to be accused of being inconsistent.
Expect to see a firm grip on the first ten minutes of the second half before he lets the players compete again as they have been.
I think Anthony has shown some good positional awareness and his fitness has ensured he has always maintained a credible distance from the few important decision he has needed to make so far.
I say “keep it up Anthony” – but there is a long way to go.
Both assistants are tuned into the referee’s tolerance level so far and have done well not to get involved unnecessarily.
GB at 2015-03-07 19:18:40
Great decision there my AT and very well placed to give it as the first half comes to an end.
Aston Villa 0 – 0 West Bromwich Albion
GB at 2015-03-07 19:17:09
minimum of 1 minute to be added
GB at 2015-03-07 19:16:08
I think half time will be coming at just the right time so that the officials can all get their heads together and discuss whether there is any danger of things “kicking off” if the players thing they can get away with “just one more foul”?
GB at 2015-03-07 19:14:34
I have given AT the benefit of the doubt in his decisions of when to caution players so far but as the spray comes out for the first time I am beginning to think that this could be on a knife edge if he is not careful.
GB at 2015-03-07 19:12:42
AT is being consistent again there and is stretching his tolerance level to the limit to allow the players to compete. I am not sure he would get away with it if the conditions were wet and slippery
GB at 2015-03-07 19:10:52
Not the most sprightly of movements there by DC when he gave a goal-kick from over a metre away from the touch line
GB at 2015-03-07 19:07:08
That decision in front of the technical areas summed up AT tolerance level so far today – he is using his experience well not to over-react
GB at 2015-03-07 19:05:58
Decision right in front of the Technical Areas always seem to be more important. AT did really well to move in to calm the situation down. Just a free kick
GB at 2015-03-07 19:04:51
That would have been an interesting call for DE with a player Off side in the goal area when the shot went in
GB at 2015-03-07 19:03:02
Another 15 minute block gone and AT is pitching his involvement spot on for me so far.
GB at 2015-03-07 19:02:04
Well thats what you get from a manager who wears his heart on his sleeve. Good to see 4th official Kevin Friend at least trying to calm him down. It was never going to happen but the important things for the officials is that you must not just ignore it
GB at 2015-03-07 18:57:20
AT is constantly on the move in this game which proves that the other high profile games he has refereed in the past 6 days have had no effect on his fitness
GB at 2015-03-07 18:54:17
AT using the captain well there as the tempo just starts to rise. That is good step management and sets up the yellow card when it comes along in a minute or two
GB at 2015-03-07 18:53:02
The commentators referred to an incident a few years ago when the ball his a “beach ball” on the way into the goal. The correct decision should have been a drop ball – but the referee played on
GB at 2015-03-07 18:51:48
EXCELLENT I am so pleased to see that “outside agent” being removed. We don’t want any issues of the ball hitting things like that today
GB at 2015-03-07 18:50:35
AT very close to that incident which helps to calm down the dissent
GB at 2015-03-07 18:48:50
15 minutes gone and the game seems to be living up to expectations and AT is looking very calm and “up for the challenge”
GB at 2015-03-07 18:47:42
Good flag for OF there by DE – always nice to get your first one out of the way
GB at 2015-03-07 18:46:49
That’s what I meant by the challenges getting tougher – cannot manage those reckless challenges correct for Charles N’Zogbia (AV 28)
GB at 2015-03-07 18:45:24
Great pressing into the corner than by AT and an equally great sprint out
GB at 2015-03-07 18:44:48
Good to see AT keeping his tinder dry then. The challenges are sure to get tougher than that today so you don’t want the first yellow card to be a “cheap one”
GB at 2015-03-07 18:43:17
AT could not have been any closer to that wrong call but he could not see through the player. He will know he got that one wrong by the players reaction but the mental skill kicks in now to forget that decision and move on fully focussed again
GB at 2015-03-07 18:41:55
first minor disagreement there as AT clearly missed the ball touching a WBA shirt before crossing the goal line – Goal-kick give was wrong
GB at 2015-03-07 18:40:27
Good proximity to the foul there for AT
GB at 2015-03-07 18:40:04
With the way WBA have come out of the blocks I have the feeling that we are in for a real FA Cup tie of quality today
GB at 2015-03-07 18:37:50
AT showing a great bit of movement there and it was good to see him swerving to make sure he had an angle in case a challenge came in – good refereeing
GB at 2015-03-07 18:36:06
Excellent sprinting displayed by ED there – that’s why these assistants get the top games!
GB at 2015-03-07 18:35:25
In a game with an atmosphere like this it helps for the referee to get a decision in early
GB at 2015-03-07 18:34:50
At right to get in early there and make his mark on the game as the ball was bouncing around all over the place
GB at 2015-03-07 18:33:20
AR1: Darren England (DE) is patrolling the touchline in front of the technical areas.
GB at 2015-03-07 18:32:59
Very tight call for ball over the line there for DC but he got his first decision correct
GB at 2015-03-07 18:31:27
Aston Villa won the toss so it will be West Bromwich Albion to kick off.
Good luck to all the officials and may the ball run kindly for you!
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GB at 2015-03-07 18:26:49
Not long to go now as the players and officials leave the tunnel
GB at 2015-03-07 18:26:31
AR1: Darren England (DE)
Darren England officiated at his first Football League game in 2009 and was elevated to the Select Group of Assistant Referees eligible for Premier League appointments in 2011. He achieved FIFA status in 2013 and already has 32 international matches under his belt.
AR2: Darren Cann (DC)
Darren Cann on the other hand was forced to remove his FIFA badge from his shirt in January of this year due to him reaching the current mandatory retirement age for FIFA officials of 45. His achievements at the highest level of officiating in the world make for very impressive reading and were suitably summarised in recent fitting tributes by Keith Hackett ( http://yatr.wpengine.com/darren-cann-take-a-bow/ ) and Glenn Turner ( http://yatr.wpengine.com/from-norwich-to-thenou-camp/ )
There have been a number of commentators suggesting that some of our Assistant Referees could have provided more help to the man in the middle this season, so let’s hope that this team can set the record straight and show the world how it is done today!
GB at 2015-03-07 18:26:07
Today’s officials are:
Referee: Anthony Taylor (AT)
AR1: Darren England (DE)
AR2: Darren Cann (DC)
4th Official: Neil Swarbrick (NS)
Anthony has had a very busy last 6 days which began with him competently handling the Capital One Cup Final at Wembley last Sunday followed by an outing to St James’ Park in the Premier League on Thursday which will be remembered for the disgraceful behaviour of both Jonny Evans and Papiss Cisse, who committed what some believe as the worst crime that can be committed on a Football pitch by both appearing to spit at each other. The other major talking point in this game was the failure of the Assistant Referee to step up to the plate and help Anthony with a penalty decision when he was unsighted which my colleague Glenn Turner has expressed his feelings about at http://yatr.wpengine.com/there-is-no-i-in-team-by-glenn-turner/
Back to today’s game and I have no doubt that Anthony would have studied Tuesday night’s “warm up” between the two teams and he may even have spoken to Jonathon Ross who refereed it, so that he can be fully prepared for anything “left over” from that encounter. On that point, he will be very aware that the game finished with a potential flash point in the 88th minute with a nasty challenge by Alan Hutton (AV 21), who made contact with his studs into the midriff of Saido Berahino (WBA 18) and was lucky not to receive a red card for his actions. Both players were cautioned following the incident and this has meant that Hutton will miss tonight’s game under the “totting-up” system, so this could be one problem that Anthony won’t have to worry about after all!
So far this season Anthony has refereed 21 Premier League games and this is his 4th outing in the FA Cup. His Premier League games have resulted in 88 yellow cards and 4 red cards and in his 3 previous FA Cup games he has issued 13 yellow cards and dismissed 2 players.
GB at 2015-03-07 18:25:41
These teams have met 7 times before at Villa Park (including one replay), since the first time they were drawn out together in 1885. The Home side has won 4 times to WBA’s 1, along with two draws. Looking back at all 12 FA Cup battles between these local rival, Aston Villa have gone through to the next round 9 times to WBA’s 3 (there were also 3 drawn fixtures along the way).
Of course stats can often be very misleading when you get a clash of the titans like this, and with 2/3s of the Premier League season already over, and neither club in a position where they can really feel assured of competing at the same level next season, it will be interesting to see if the passion displayed on Tuesday night will be as evident today.
at 2015-03-07 18:25:17
A few minutes to go before KO and welcome to this evenings live RefCam coverage of the FA Cup quarter-final between Aston Villa and West Bromwich Albion. Feel free to interact with me during the game by joining in on Twitter @youaretheref or e-mail at email@example.com
When the FA Cup throws up local derbies like this, there is always that extra anticipation for these winner takes all encounters to produce a really exciting sceptical. Throw in the fact that this one comes on the back of a Premier League fixture on the same ground just 4 days ago and we have the makings for a cracker tonight. A full house at this historical venue which has hosted many Semi-finals of this competition of the years should provide a fantastic atmosphere.