Arsenal v West Brom


DM at 2017-09-25 22:00:37

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DM at 2017-09-25 21:59:52

Full-Time Summary

This was never a difficult game for the match officials but unfortunately their decision-making as a team was not at the level expected.  Assistant Perry and fourth official Attwell had a quiet night and carried out their duties well. Unfortunately Bobby Madley and AR Lee Betts made significant errors which at times affected match control.

The two penalty incidents analysed at half-time were examples of clear errors, there was no debate and both decisions were incorrect.  AR Betts lacked the courage required at this level to assist the referee when a clear shirt pull took place at the taking of a corner-kick.  The defending player pulled the attacker’s shirt significantly, the shirt was stretched and it was a clear and obvious foul that should not have been passed over.  The incident in the 7th minute was another clear error and referee Madley will be disappointed with his movement, positioning and ultimately decision-making here.

The second-half was a smoother ride for the officials but in the 79th minute Bobby Madley made another key match error by failing to send off WB25 Dawson for a reckless challenge on an opponent.  The West Brom player committed the foul at speed, from behind and paid little regard to the safety of the Arsenal player.  This ticked all the boxes for a caution but referee Madley chose instead to speak to the offender instead of issuing his second yellow card.

The referee was not at the races today, he appears to lack confidence and self-belief which is masked by a casual approach to his refereeing.  This lack of alertness led to three key match errors in a game that was not challenging.

DM at 2017-09-25 21:52:56

Full Time



DM at 2017-09-25 21:52:27


A8 off, A30 on


DM at 2017-09-25 21:49:47

Minimum of 3 minutes added time

DM at 2017-09-25 21:42:10


A7 off, A11 on


DM at 2017-09-25 21:41:36


A9 off, A12 on


DM at 2017-09-25 21:39:11

WB25 has to be cautioned for that challenge, it was late, from behind and reckless.   Dawson has already been cautioned and that would have been a sending off.  Poor decision by the referee.


DM at 2017-09-25 21:36:33

Although it is important for a referee to smile and enjoy themselves, you have to pick your moment.  When a team feel aggrieved it is not advisable to be laughing and joking as the perception could be you dont care.  Bobby Madley needs to keep his head down and see out the rest of the game here.


DM at 2017-09-25 21:33:01


WB2 off, WB10 on

DM at 2017-09-25 21:29:35

West Brom feel aggrieved following the first half penalty claim in the 7th minute.  However, two wrongs dont make a right and referee Madley was absolutely correct to award the penalty kick.  WB2 has to be very careful, he has been cautioned and after the penalty had been scored he sarcastically applauded the referee.  He could have received a second caution for dissent and been dismissed.

DM at 2017-09-25 21:27:24




DM at 2017-09-25 21:26:41

Yellow CardWB2 Unsporting behaviour



DM at 2017-09-25 21:26:11

Advantage played for an off the ball foul by West Brom leads to A8 collecting the ball and WB2 charging his opponent in the back.  The referee correctly awards a penalty kick.


DM at 2017-09-25 21:22:55


WB4 off WB9 on


DM at 2017-09-25 21:21:42


WB8 off WB7 on


DM at 2017-09-25 21:18:05

WB25 will have to be careful, he is already on a caution and that was a careless use of the arm on his opponent.


DM at 2017-09-25 21:15:17

Yellow CardWB20 reckless challenge


DM at 2017-09-25 21:14:29

WB19 catches A18 late and after the ball had been played.  Lucky not to be cautioned for a reckless challenge.


DM at 2017-09-25 21:11:38

Good flag by AR Perry for a foul by WB26.

DM at 2017-09-25 21:09:32

Very good caution by Bobby Madley for the reckless challenge from WB25.  Clear yellow card and delivered without hesitation.  Good start to the second half.


DM at 2017-09-25 21:08:20

Yellow CardWB25 reckless challenge


DM at 2017-09-25 21:04:43

Bobby Madley gets the second half underway

DM at 2017-09-25 21:01:46

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DM at 2017-09-25 20:59:10

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DM at 2017-09-25 20:58:16

Half-Time Summary

This has not been a difficult game to manage or referee but the officials have made two key match errors and have missed some blatant fouls.  Match control is not established and the officials look on edge and low on confidence.

Bobby Madley has missed two nailed on penalty kicks.

The challenge in the 7th minute by A20 on WB19 was a clear trip and not difficult to see.  The referee was a little detached but he moved wide to create an angle and I think he had enough of a view to see it.  Advantage is not an option advisable to a referee in the penalty area for the attacking team unless the ball is about to be struck in to the net.  Either way, no signal was displayed and I was stunned when after WB19 hit the post, the referee did not blow his whistle and award the penalty.

In the 33rd minute, WB20 clearly pulled the shirt of A7 at the taking of a corner-kick.  AR Lee Betts could clearly see the incident and yet he failed to flag.  Bobby Madley will be disappointed with his colleague as assistance was badly needed.

It is vital that the officials come out and draw a line under the first half performance and officiate with confidence and clarity.  Match control has not yet been established and I am fearful that the referee could lose control if he is not careful.

DM at 2017-09-25 20:49:46

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DM at 2017-09-25 20:49:21

Half time summary to follow…..

DM at 2017-09-25 20:48:50

Half Time



DM at 2017-09-25 20:48:30

Minimum 1 minute added time


DM at 2017-09-25 20:48:00

Strange piece of refereeing by Bobby Madley to summon the Arsenal captain after cautioning A7 for dissent.  Again the referee is bringing attention to himself.  He would be better speaking to the captain in passing as he has already cautioned A7.


DM at 2017-09-25 20:46:05

Yellow CardA7 Dissent



DM at 2017-09-25 20:45:34

AR Perry indicates a foul for a handball by Arsenal.  After the free-kick A7 is cautioned for dissent.


DM at 2017-09-25 20:43:17

Bobby Madley plays a good advantage on the halfway that leads to an Arsenal attack.  A strong challenge by WB8 is correctly judged as fair and then A31 is correctly penalised for a push in the back of his opponent.  Plenty to do in that phase of play for the referee.

DM at 2017-09-25 20:37:14

Although the challenge by WB6 was probably more careless than reckless, he has now committed two late challenges and the referee has taken that in to account in deciding to issue a yellow card.


DM at 2017-09-25 20:36:15

Yellow CardWB6 for unsporting behaviour



DM at 2017-09-25 20:35:16

#AFCWBA That was another clear penalty kick that the refereeing team has missed.  WB20 clearly pulled the shirt of A7 and a replay was needed to view it.  The Assistant Lee Betts should have assisted the referee in that situation he has a great view.


DM at 2017-09-25 20:32:56

Bobby Madley is missing a lot tonight.  A8 was caught late by WB26 and neither AR Betts or the referee picked it up.


DM at 2017-09-25 20:30:36

Good awareness from the referee as he moves close to the goal-line to award a goal-kick to Arsenal.


DM at 2017-09-25 20:29:13

WB2 and A18 come together in the penalty area following a through ball to the Arsenal player.  The defender is clearly holding the Arsenal player but it is on the blind side of the referee.  Difficult one to call for Bobby Madley.


DM at 2017-09-25 20:25:34

Bobby Madley’s laid -style is not on show tonight.  He again brings unnecessary attention to himself by making Arsenal re-take a free kick for a moving ball.  It looked stationary to me and the referee could have allowed the game to carry on in that situation.


DM at 2017-09-25 20:23:39

There is an edge around the match officials team, they appear nervous and are making some basic mistakes.  That was a clear foul by A9 as he barged his opponent in the back.  The referee and the assistant gave nothing.


DM at 2017-09-25 20:21:30




DM at 2017-09-25 20:20:47

Good decision by Bobby Madley to award the free-kick for a foul by WB6 on the edge of the area.  The referee correctly did not play advantage as a ceremonial free-kick is a shot on goal and was a much better option for the home team.


DM at 2017-09-25 20:19:01

Again the referee brings attention to himself by speaking to WB20 following a foul in the middle third.  The public reprimand was not needed here, the referee could have had a quiet word on his way past.


DM at 2017-09-25 20:17:41

Bobby Madley is being quite pedantic about he positions of throw-ins.  On four occasions so far he has whistled loudly to ask a player to move position at the taking of a throw-in.  This is bringing unnecessary attention on the referee.  He could be more proactive, getting closer, using his voice and his assistants could also help.

DM at 2017-09-25 20:13:24

Bobby Madley cannot let that decision play on his mind he has to ‘park it and move on’.  He will be disappointed that he has got the call wrong but now is not the time for him to reflect on it, that has to come after the match.

DM at 2017-09-25 20:11:42

A referee would not play advantage on a penalty kick unless a player was about to kick the ball in to an open goal.  In any case, the referee can bring play back if the advantage does not accrue.  After WB19 struck his shot against the post, the referee could have then awarded the penalty kick, if he had chosen to wait and see if an advantage accrued.


DM at 2017-09-25 20:09:38

#AFCWBA Big incident for Bobby Madley to deal with there.  WB19 was challenged by A20.  The away player went to ground, got back up and had a shot on goal.  This was a clear penalty kick and the referee has made a key match error.


DM at 2017-09-25 20:04:56

First free-kick of the game awarded on the edge of the area for a foul by WB25.  The away defender pushed H7 and Bobby Madley was on the spot to give the foul.

DM at 2017-09-25 20:00:13

Bobby Madley gets the match underway

DM at 2017-09-25 19:56:14

Lee Betts is a steady Assistant Referee and he is starting to be appointed to the better and more high profile games.  Last season he officiated the FA Cup Semi-Final at Wembley so it will be interesting to see how he performs tonight.  Marc Perry’s appointment to The FA Cup Final last season was extremely surprising.  He is by common consensus one of the less mobile officials on the list and he has made some glaring errors in recent seasons.  Let’s hope that tonight he turns that perception around and fully supports Bobby Madley in his control of the match.

DM at 2017-09-25 19:53:26

Both teams have made indifferent starts to their EPL campaign with a mixture of wins, losses and draws between them.  With only a point and two places seperating the teams a win this evening could see West Brom in to the top 5 and Arsenal moving up to 7th.  Bobby Madley will want to allow the game to flow where possible but he will also need to monitor that the physical approach that Tony Pulis’s team may adopt does not overstep the mark.

DM at 2017-09-25 19:50:55

Bobby Madley has refereed 5 games this season, in which he has cautioned 22 players and dismissed 4. He has took charge of both of tonight’s teams already this season, overseeing The FA Community Shield between Arsenal and Chelsea before a week later opening his EPL season in the middle of West Brom v Bournemouth.

DM at 2017-09-25 19:47:03

Appointed Match officials:
Referee – Bobby Madley
Assistants – Lee Betts and Marc Perry
4th official – Stuart Attwell

DM at 2017-09-25 19:44:28

The referee for this evening is Bobby Madley and his Assistants are Lee Betts (technical area side) and Marc Perry (far side), with Stuart Attwell holding the boards as fourth official.

DM at 2017-09-25 19:42:43

Welcome to this evening’s ref cam as Arsenal play West Bromwich Albion in the EPL.